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Is Australia Ready to Become a Police State?

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otb,

At no time have I ever asserted that that schoolies
are more dangerous than bikie gangs. That is absolute
nonsense. That particular discussion was as I recall
about violence on the Gold Coast - and what hotel
owners were doing in preparation for schoolies week
to protect their properties as a result of damage
done by schoolies in the past.

As for the law Review undertaken by the current Queensland
government - that was explained fully as to why this
initiative was undertaken by the Attorney-General.

You need to read what people say not what you think they
say.

You need to stop your ad hominem attacks that try to negate
opinions by alleging negatives about people supporting
those opinions. This is a technique used by trolls on
the web. It's time you changed your technique. Otherwise
the assumption will be that you are indeed nothing more
than a troll.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 September 2015 1:19:17 PM
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Paul,

In the case that you cite the law is obviously at fault along with the range officials for not following proper procedures.

Why do you think that unannounced inspections of law abiding citizens premises are justifiable, saying that it is Greens' policy begs the question.
Would you also allow random unannounced searches of known Greens for cannabis possession
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 7 September 2015 1:34:38 PM
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otb,

I learnt at a very early age how to identify mean,
nasty people. People to be avoided at all costs.
Luckily, I have met very few in my life-time.

Ever since you have joined the forum - you have made
me a target. I have tried to engage and inter-act
with you yet you seem hell-bent on your persistent
attacks to provoke a reaction from me. I have tried
scrolling past your post. I have tried explaining
my opinions to you. I have even tried calling a truce
and asked for civil behaviour. Nothing worked. Finally,
I have asked you to stop addressing posts
to me.

If you continue with these tactics - they are a
form of bullying and harassment - and I shall be forced
to take it up with the moderator.

So once again I shall state - kindly stop addressing
posts to me.
I am not interested in any inter-action with you.
I do not care what you think or what you have to say
on any topic. Please leave me alone!
There are plenty of other people you can address on this
forum who might be interested in your opinion.
I am not one of them.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 September 2015 1:38:41 PM
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//Care to explain why the police had to be called to the army base and why it was they that shot the gunman?//

I dunno. Maybe the soldiers were all pacifists? It seems unlikely. But it seems more likely than the U.S. Government disarming its own military. Why don't you try googling it? You know how to operate a search engine, don't you? If not, ask somebody else: you don't employ me as a researcher and it isn't my job to answer all your questions because you're too lazy to seek out the answers to your own questions.

//Why do you think that unannounced inspections of law abiding citizens premises are justifiable//

For exactly the same reason that RBT of law abiding citizens is justifiable. It's a good deterrent against people doing the wrong thing.

If you give people forewarning that you will be breath testing along Roman Rd. 6-9PM on the 7th of September, you will catch no drink drivers and consequently have zero deterrence effect on that risky and antisocial behaviour.

Kitchens are the same. If the health inspector tells the head chef he'll be coming round in a week, he'll be met with a kitchen cleaner than your average operating theatre. They won't get fined or shut down, and there will have been zero deterrence on their risky and unhygienic practices. If the healthie shows up unannounced, then the dirty buggers won't have time to get the fridge below 296K or fish out the dead cat from beneath the bench.

If the police tell somebody they'll be coming round in a week to ensure they are complying with the conditions of their firearms license, that gives them sufficient warning to conceal any illegal firearms and to properly secure the legal ones. Once again, nobody gets caught and there is no deterrence.

But if you know there's a chance you could get caught and punished, then you are less likely to take the risk. Unannounced compliance checks are generally a good way for police and other authorities to deter some types of crime in a financially viable manner.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 7 September 2015 4:05:12 PM
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Fox, "At no time have I ever asserted that that schoolies are more dangerous than bikie gangs"

Oh yes you damn well did.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 7 September 2015 4:31:49 PM
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Well, Levity, US soldiers are not allowed to be armed on Base unless doing duties which require them to be armed, just the same as in Australia.
That's why the police had to be called to deal with the situation.

Fortunately in NSW firearm inspections are carried out at a mutually agreeable time; the NSW Police respect the fact that Licenced Firearm owners are good citizens, the Greens would overturn this and introduce methods more in keeping with their role model the former, unlamented, USSR.

Bye the way, could you qualify for a pistol licence?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 7 September 2015 6:01:25 PM
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