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Is Australia Ready to Become a Police State?

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I'm not a supporter of guns, but I must that Paul appears a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic when he writes such crap. What is clear is that Paul has no clue about shooting or sport in general.

"Shooting is the only "sport" that if you don't like your opponent you can shoot him dead. Talk about bad sportsmanship!" probably takes the cake. What about archery, or even the javelin, or for that case what's stopping a gymnast shooting a rival?

Just recently we had the half wit dinner tally claiming that ISIS were only bit players in Syria, and that taking out this murderous organisation which was the cause of many refugees fleeing was going to make things worse. This comes from the same fevered thinking that thinks EMOs are threatening because they dress in black.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 6 September 2015 1:06:43 PM
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Toni,

Care to tell us why you don't consider target shooting to be a sport?

Paul,

When you talk about fascist state methods do you also consider:
NSW Greens' policy
"24. Regular unannounced checks by police or another enforcement body to ensure that individuals and clubs are abiding with firearm storage regulations;"

Do the Greens prefer that this be done in the middle of the night?

Don't throw stones, Paul, glass houses and all that.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 6 September 2015 2:14:57 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Seeing as you brought up the topic of archery,
and the javelin as sports. What about fencing
which is quite popular as well? And there's heaps
more sports where "weapons" are used - even for
example - martial arts, and boxing would probably
qualify in certain cases. However out of all these
sports - how high are the statistics of people actually
being killed by these "weapons," when compared to guns?

Look at the United States - where gun control virtually
does not exist. How high are the stats there.
God Bless America!
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 September 2015 2:35:03 PM
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Fox, "United States - where gun control virtually does not exist"

BS and a false comparison anyhow as you would be well aware. Then again maybe it still hasn't sunk in that the US gun crime is hugely black on black, gangs and drugs.

Fox, "However out of all these sports - how high are the statistics of people actually being killed by these "weapons," when compared to guns?"

Comparing the sport of shooting and local and international competition combined, I would dare say that the deaths of competitors while competing (include training too if you like) would be vastly higher in (say) cycle riding, hurdles or even weightlifting. I son't know of any injuries and certainly no deaths involving competition involving firearms.

Of course you are trying to conflate the legitimate recreational and sporting use of firearms with the ferals and gangs who unlawfully obtain and use firearms.

That is the deceit of 'gun control' - the alleged few moonlighting public servants in Australia are so secret squirrel as to conceal even the very basic information about themselves and their political and overseas links. For instance, with that billionaire currency dealer the French court found to be illegally trading and who is alleged to be behind leftist activism in the US and other countries. Now what would a billionaire currency dealer gain from that?
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 6 September 2015 3:33:06 PM
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According to United Nations data compiled by The
Guardian's Simon Rogers:

Homicides by firearm per 1 million people.

In advanced countries according to the Human Development
Index. Numbers are for 2012:

Australia - 1.4
New Zealand- 1.6
Germany - 1.9
Austria 2.2
Denmark - 2.7
Netherlands - 3.3
Sweden - 4.1
Finland - 4.5
Ireland - 4.8
Canada - 5.1
Luxembourg - 6.2
Belgium - 6.8
Switzerland - 7.7
United States - 29.7

Why does the United States have so many gun homicides than other
advanced countries?
One possible answer is that Americans own much more guns than
their peers around the world. And empirical research shows places
with more guns have more homicides.

Mass-shootings are increasing according to the UNODC Small arms
survey, via The Guardian.

It is disturbing that in the United States if someone asks about
movie theatre shootings. The first response is -
which one?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 September 2015 4:12:43 PM
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Here are more stats taken from the web:

"It is pretty hard to count up all the guns in the
US - especially given how varied different states'
licensing and
registration policies are. A 2012 Congressional
Research Service Report estimated that there
were 310 million civilian guns in
2009, 114 million handguns, 110 million rifles, and 86 million
shotguns. The Small Arms Survey, which measures gun
prevalence internationally estimated that there were 270 million
in 2007. The latter estimate suggests that there were 88.8 guns
for every 100 people in the United States in 2007, there were
about 307 million people in the US in 2009, which would mean
the Congressional Research Service estimated there were more
guns than people in America."

As I stated previously - God Bless America.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 September 2015 4:20:39 PM
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