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Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 5 September 2015 9:40:48 AM
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Lever action shotguns. As far as I remember, there has never been a lever-action shotgun until recently, and I started shooting 57 years ago. Also as far as I remember, when Howard introduced his draconian anti-gun laws you could not own a semi-automatic or pump-action rifle, only bolt-actions or lever-actions. I believe that lever-action rifles are still legal, and you can buy them in centre-fire calibres lethal up to 1,000 metres.
A shot gun, even loaded with 00 buckshot or SG shot, which is used to kill lions at close range, would not give you a tickle at 100 metres. So, if you can have a deadly lever-action rifle, why not a lever-action shotgun? Once again, we are dictated to by people who don't know their backsides from their elbows. And for all you knee-jerkers who talking about a "police state" now, you are looking in the wrong direction too late. The first rule for a dictatorship is: DISARM THE POPULATION. Australia has already started, and there is talk, right now, of extending bans.As a law abiding citizen who shot mainly targets but who no longer has a firearms permit through choice, I would have no hope of getting one again. Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 5 September 2015 11:29:44 AM
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ttbn,
Winchester introduced their lever action shotgun, the Model 1887, in 1887 and I believe that the first ones were imported into Australia after 1889, at least the earliest one that I've seen here was made in that year. I bought my first M.1887 from Smith's Sports Store in Sydney way back in about 1956, they were rather a clumsy gun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1887/1901 Unless you've done something drastic there is no reason why you should be refused a Firearms Licence, many people are taking up the sport of target shooting with rifle, pistol or shotgun again, and anew, as it's one of (if not) the safest sports and men and women, boys and girls can all compete on a level playing field, age and gender make no difference. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 5 September 2015 1:11:26 PM
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Is Mise, i have to agree guns don't discriminate men and women, boys and girls, can all die at the point of a gun!
"lethal up to 1,000 metres". ttbn is that lethal to humans, odd how the gun happy brigade are quick to say they have no interest in the killing of their fellow man, but are just as quick to say what the lethal human range is for their guns. Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 5 September 2015 4:01:46 PM
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//many people are taking up the sport of target shooting with rifle, pistol or shotgun again, and anew//
Sport? Come off it, if target shooting counts as a real sport so do darts, ten-pin bowling, snooker and rhythmic gymnastics. Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 5 September 2015 6:20:00 PM
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Toni Lavis & Paul1405,
LOL, ignorant metropolitan Greens. "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain Here you go Whingers, proving there is life outside of paying urban baristas too much for vanilla soy bean latte, <Laura Coles has won gold in the women's skeet to claim Australia's first shooting medal of the Commonwealth Games. The 27-year-old exercise physiologist shot 14 out of 16 targets in the gold medal shoot-off against Wales' Elena Allen, who missed three shots to finish with silver on Friday.> http://www.theage.com.au/commonwealth-games-glasgow-2014/commonwealth-games-news/laura-coles-claims-commonwealth-shooting-gold-20140726-zx327.html <Department of Primary Industries Agricultural Protection Officer, Suzy Balogh, is the first Australian woman to win an Olympic shooting gold medal. Balogh, 31, won gold in the Olympic women's trap shooting in Athens yesterday. Normally based in Orange, Balogh worked out of the DPI's Queanbeyan office in the lead-up to the Athens Olympics so she could fulfil training commitments. She led from the second round of the preliminaries and through the final, claiming victory with an overall score of 88, four ahead of her nearest rival.> http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/archive/news-releases/general/26/suzy_wins_gold Just a few examples of many. International [ISSF] competition - 2015 calendar http://www.issf-sports.org/calendar.ashx Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 5 September 2015 8:14:47 PM
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-13/adler-shotgun-importation-ban-to-be-lifted-after-leyonhjelm-deal/6694586