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Should We Pay People Smugglers?

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SM,

Hanson Young was replying to a question as to whether she took responsibility for the drownings - she didn't just come out and make a cold-blooded announcement.

Of course you would run with it - and I note upon googling that the right-wing sites were the ones making a meal of it.

So here we go - just like Abbott's "s... happens".

Attributing a derogatory meaning to statements such as these - delivered in response to highly emotionally charged situations - is pointless, save for petty point scoring.

But you go for it - it's built on fluff and nothing - as is evidenced by your additional flummery: "SHY cares nothing for asylum seekers, it is just a political soap box that she can whinge on."
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 26 June 2015 12:16:41 AM
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Poirot,

Here is more of the text which sums up the careless hypocritical attitude of the greens to the humanitarian disaster they helped create, that the majority of Australians are now wise too:

"So it is that while the Senator can cry in parliament for children in detention she was also able to check out a band at a pub, and tweet happily about it, while Australians risked their lives trying to rescue asylum-seekers and retrieve their bodies on the night 48 died at Christmas Island almost five years ago.

Later, after yet another disaster and in response to questions about Greens culpability through their open-borders approach, Hanson-Young famously said “tragedies happen, accidents happen.”

The policies favoured by Hanson-Young and the Greens were implemented by Labor from 2008. They led to the arrival of more than 800 boats, 51,000 asylum-seekers and the deaths of at least 1200 people on attempted journeys.

They saw detention centres built and filled in every state, tens of thousands of people put through detention, and anything up to almost 2000 children held in detention at any one time.

They also saw Australia’s generous humanitarian intake of refugees outsourced — with all the places taken by people who had been able to pay people-smugglers anything up to $10,000 and no places left for refugees waiting in camps in Sudan, Pakistan, Indonesia or elsewhere.

In short, it was an epic disaster for everyone except the criminal people-smugglers and a select group of their paying customers."

The problem that the Greens now have is that they are furious that Abbott stopped the boats and that they have no viable alternative, and all they have left to whinge about is the problems in cleaning up the Labor/Green mess.

Remember Howard left only 4 people in detention, and no deaths at sea for years.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 26 June 2015 3:58:50 AM
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SM,

Do the right thing and give us a link to the person you're quoting.

I'm not disputing the quote, but it's always nice to know which right-wing commentator I'm reading.

And none of this of course has anything to do with the fact that in recent years the planet has seen the highest refugee numbers since WWII...which is why instead of having "stopped the boats", they've merely become adept at chasing them away when they appear.

Yes, I know you like to lay into SHY - and translate "“Tragedies happen. Accidents happen.”"..into "effectively said "crap happens"

Do you also believe Abbott's "S... happens" means he couldn't give a hoot about our soldiers dying overseas?
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 26 June 2015 7:54:06 AM
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Poirot,

You asked me for the quote and I gave it to you. You must really learn to use google. To find the origin of a quote, highlight it and right click Search google for "... it takes 5 seconds.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/chris-kenny-greens-hypocritical-on-mediterranean-refugee-drownings/story-fn8qlm5e-1227313194718

What it clearly shows is that SHY clearly believes that the deaths at sea are someone else's problem, and the fact that they are clearly caused by the people smuggling trade is irrelevant. That she went clubbing on the evening that people drowned showed how cold hearted she really is.

It is not possible to stop the drownings unless the boats are stopped. This lesson the EU is busy learning, and Labor learnt the hard way. Since OSB was put in place no one has drowned, and the 30 000 that labor/greens left in detention has dropped to about 3300 (1500 off shore) with children in detention dropping from over 2000 under Labor/greens to about 160 today.

Of all the immigration policies the coalition's is the most humane.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 26 June 2015 9:31:24 AM
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Shadow

Why does Poirot have to Google your lazy quotes from Uncle Rupts. Then again 100% of what you post is straight out of the No News News Limited is it not. Since when has any conservative govt in Australia ever shown concern for their fellow human beings? Not in my life time!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 26 June 2015 5:33:00 PM
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SM,

I think Tony Burke's characterisation of the Greens' policy on boat-people, as 'line-of-sight' refugees, was most appropriate.

With fifty million refugees in the world now, and probably very many who (a) have applied to seek refuge in Australia ASAP, and (b) don't have a pot to piss in, let alone thousands of their relations' hard-earned money, the faux tears of the Greens has always turned my stomach.

By all means, increase the annual quota of refugees; by all means, take in emergency intakes such as Rohingya and Syrians: fly them directly from, respectively, from Yangon, Amman and Ankara. We did it before when the Kosovars (oops - under a Coalition government) that sort of emergency help, and we can do it again.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 26 June 2015 6:44:47 PM
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