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the end of compassion

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To be dismissive of millions of people as being simply "low IQ African and Asian criminals who destroy everything they touch.", might sit well with some, and it certainly should win support from those that fear a loss of their "superior" lifestyle, such people are not only found in the developed world, they are in the third world as well. The belief in a massive sub-human underclass on the move plays into the hands of the extremists. By demonising millions as a danger to "our society" and "our way of life" will move some of the non-committed moderates to embrace as necessary extreme action to repel the hoards of sub-humans.
The inevitable long term outcome for all, given that kind of extremism, is the destruction of millions on both sides, including that very way of life that some seen as desperately needing to be preserved, no winners, only massive numbers of losers.
There is a growing refugee crises in the world, no one can deny that. To blame a few domestic politicians for the crises is negative, and short sighted, although they play their part. It is going to take more than compassion to solve the problem, it is going to take both commitment and sacrifice by many, alone with coordinated world action. No country can act alone and expect to simply satisfy their own self interest, all have to act together to achieve a lasting sustainable outcome for all. For some, certain actions will be seen as unpalatable, but there is no easy solution to what is a very serious world problem.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 18 May 2015 6:23:59 AM
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Paul,
But a sub human underclass is exactly what they are, the "Brown Undertow", they are the result of generations of dysgenic environmental conditions and inbreeding of physical and mental defects. Do you understand what happens to the brain of a malnourished child? Do you understand why Asians from well off families are tall, strong and intelligent while the sons of the poor are stunted, sick and retarded? Have you ever met a person from a rural area of China and seen the physical and mental differences between him and say, a middle class person from Shanghai? Using the words sub-human is appropriate if we're to have a definition of humanity at all.
Let's include an IQ test in the health checks for migrants, anyone who can't pass it in their own language and get a score of at least 100 is denied entry.
Paul you're of above average intelligence and have a breadth of real world experience so you know how difficult it can be to teach or explain things to people of even average intelligence, how are we supposed to integrate tens of thousands of men (and they are all men) who are by the standards of our society mentally handicapped?
What about all the sub 80 IQ people we already have living among us? Do they get special treatment? No, you see them in the housing commission areas and rural towns fending for themselves as best they can by committing crime, ripping each other off and collecting welfare.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 18 May 2015 8:09:56 AM
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Suseonline, "I have no idea how many boat people to allow in.
Surely that would depend on how many were needing to find refugee status over the next 5 years, and I doubt anyone can say?"

At least you have replied to 'that' question, that so many others here have avoided despite being asked repeatedly.

However, you will have an open border and an open chequebook. Worse still, you accept economic migrants as 'refugees'.

Who will pay and what reduction in standard of living are you volunteering Australians to have?

Big business should be fine with what your demand though. Because even unskilled, ignorant, unwilling-to-work bludgers can be used to drive down pay and conditions and justify government shirking its responsibilities where the vulnerable are concerned. -Which definitely includes Labor-Greens governments too! -Remember Ms Gillard and her treatment of age pensioners and single mothers.

Labor and the Greens have already flown kites on putting a capital gains tax on the residential home and the Greens push for death taxes.

Like many others I am well prepared to take family and moderate assets off-shore, as others have done and are doing.

BTW, why didn't any of those spruikers for open door immigration even take any of those buff younf economic migrants in themselves?
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 18 May 2015 8:18:24 AM
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JOM, you are very ignorant indeed if you think skin colour has anything at all to do with intelligence. You are racist and offensive in the extreme.

Onthebeach, as I have already said, no one expects Australia to have an open door policy, so what are you on about?
I don't know what the answer to the growing refugee crisis in the world, but I do know that a closed door policy is not the answer.
We are just going round and round in circles on this subject...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 18 May 2015 9:59:09 AM
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Dear OnTheBeach,

<<However, you will have an open border and an open chequebook. Worse still, you accept economic migrants as 'refugees'.>>

An open border need not imply an open chequebook - it only follows from this silly idea as if landing on this continent is identical to joining the Australian society; and there is no need to make a distinction between economic migrants and refugees either - it only follows from signing and agreeing to abide by UN conventions.

Nobody had a right to close the borders in the first place, but nobody was ever required to accept those who enter as members of society or to treat them as humans: it's just a toxic combination of national arrogance on the one hand, then wanting it to look good on the other.

As for the fear of numbers, not many would arrive (unless sponsored by Australians for whatever reason) had they known in advance that no social benefits await them here, that in fact they would be treated more or less like animals with no civil rights and with real chances of starving to death if they are not fully able to take care of themselves.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 18 May 2015 10:07:28 AM
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Get a grip everyone.
The massive illegal migration movement is just getting underway.
Egypt has 45 Million to be pushed out over the next 10 years or less.
How many millions do you think we can handle ? 5 ? 10 ? 20 ?

Susie, Australia did NOT just shove the boats back out to sea.
They took them to near Indonesian waters and sent them back into harbours.
You compared that to just shoving them back out as the Indonesians,
Malaysians and Thais are doing with nowhere to go.

Australia's policy solved not just our problem but Indonesia's problem
as well. They do not come to Indonesia now as the business plan has been torn up.

If open borders became the policy, then maternity entitlements would
no longer be a problem, there would be none, likewise pensions and
the government would spend all the money it could raise putting up tents.
Surely the best thing those considering boarding the boats is to get
organised in their own countries to improve their own conditions.
In the case where it is an interracial problem, then perhaps they
should go back from whence they came. Not an easy solution of course
but they have to solve their own problems not transfer the problem to us.

Some people just do not seem to be able to get a grip on reality.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 18 May 2015 10:13:54 AM
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