G'day to you STEELEREDUX...

I wasn't aware you're a 'bush basher' ? I was 'required' to undertake the 'light' 4WD course at work, and promptly flunked it. Our driver trainers are very much dedicated expert drivers at what they teach. Some are M/C instructors, others 'pursuit' driver trainers, while others, instruct on heavy vehicles, 4WD etc. etc. Our main facility was/is located at St Ives, whether it's still there, I don't know ?

My 4WD course was actually conducted at Holsworthy Army base, where the Army have their own purpose built facilities, to accommodate all manner of vehicular training. It was our own personnel who taught us, we merely used their facilities ? My problem was, amongst everything else to do with these damn 4WD's, was descending in 'low range', down these impossibly steep tracks, that even a demented mountain goat wouldn't wish to negotiate ! Needless to say, after several 'remedials' I was (reluctantly) granted a police licence to 'operate' a (light) 4WD police vehicles. Why say 'operate', surely they mean 'drive', the damn thing ! Typical 'copperese', a spade is spade; "...or a shaped metal device, calculated to relocate, small quantities of miscellaneous material, to another foreordained area..." ? And to think I spent over 32 years in that job !

The operative word is 'seem' ? Notwithstanding you're '...happy to be proved wrong...' ? We shall see eh ?

Not entirely on topic, well within the periphery nevertheless - all of us can now watch most of world slowly destroy itself, as a direct consequence of the evil influences, of revolutionary Islam. Yet even now there are those, essentially from the 'Left' including yourself STEELEREDUX, who still wish to bring even more Islamic refugees into this country, many of them under the pretence of being legitimate asylum seekers ?

Surely now, as a thinking man, you can see the many blunders, and the disastrous consequences of bringing so many of these people into our unwary country ? And the fatal errors arising out of the pathetic 'screening' protocols, perpetrated by all of Australia's responsible monitoring agencies.

Many people are dying at sea due to 'people smugglers'. These criminals, obviously pretty callous and brutal are being paid I believe thousands$$ to smuggle immigrants to better off countries. Not unlike the Mexican border, I think they are called 'jackals'. Who also make $$$ by smuggling. Border protection and security there is massive and controlled by both sides.
Its very difficult when the border is thousands of kilometers of open ocean. There are obviously no controls from the smuggler's bases so the journey cannot be stopped. Our and other countries really cannot be condemned for most of the tragedies that occur at sea. The smugglers, having now obtained thousands of dollars somehow manage to abandon them and return to shore, obviously not caring whether they live or die. When deaths result due to 'starving,sickness and dehydration' it is a huge tragedy to most of the civilized world.
Due to such corruption in these societies, and large numbers of people in positions of power benefiting financially from the smuggling rings, plus a clear lack of care for their own people, smuggling is not policed but rather, protected.
These country's leaders, politicians, police and military are aware that we have a firmer policy on illegal immigrants. Are aware that their people are being abandoned at sea. They are majorly responsible for the situations occurring and need to take responsibility. Stop the corruption by firstly getting rid of the smuggling rings. Protect your own borders and educate and discourage illegal immigration

It stuck me hearing about the tragedy in North Carolina that the language used by the gunman was similar to that being used of our own threads, most notably by our resident racist Jay of Melbourne.

"Poirot I know bitter, hate fueled middle class women like you are happy to sacrifice working class girls as rape dolls and sex slaves to Asian predators but sooner or later it's going to come to your doorstep, these men lack the intelligence to discriminate between a middle class vagina and a working class one."
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 7:34:33 PM

“When the son of her friend pleaded with the shooter to stop, Johnson said the gunman replied: "'No, you've raped our women, and you are taking over the country ... I have to do what I have to do.' And he shot the young man."”
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/18/us/charleston-south-carolina-shooting/index.html

There are a number of people who continue to run a similar line on OLO.

They need to be always called out for what they are.