Suse,
So people who don't try to solve the world's problems are sub-human?
So humans in your view must be White Westerners and north Asians because we're the only ethno-racial groups who engage in altruism.
Your views and mine are the same, people who cannot or will not contribute to "progress" are lacking essential human qualities, this type of scientific racism puts us in the same league as the great minds of the 19th and 20th centuries.
The notion that there were superior and inferior types and traits has existed for all of human history, it's only in the last 50 years that it's been unfashionable to speak those thoughts aloud but science marches on regardless and the evidence of higher and lower forms of human life won't go away.

Dear onthebeach,

I usually refrain from addressing you for very good reasons but I do so now as a fellow human being who sees a disturbing pattern in your posts which seems not to have been addressed.

I recall a thread on Adam Goodes where so much of your commentary was markedly, and inappropriately for the topic, sexual in nature. At the time I advised you to find some professional help. I don't have a habit of reading many of your posts so it may have slipped my attention but I have read some of your posts here and 'it's back!'

“those buff young men and male youths”

“those buff younf (sic) economic migrants in themselves”

“so many buff young men”

“taking some of those buff young men into their own home to take care of them?”

Mate one doesn't need a psychology degree to see you have deep seated issues, certainly around members of the opposite sex. Perhaps those issues are innate, or possibly the result of a strict religious upbringing, or they could be the result of a messy divorce, I don't know, but I do know they need and deserve resolving.

Susie said;
Bazz, I think I have made my position crystal clear.
The day we ignore the problems of the rest of the world is the day we
cease to be human.

Sorry, but I do not see the connection to my comment on the returning
of boats to their departure place.

SteeleRedux if anyone here has a real problem it is you old chap.

Having such a high opinion of your self, with your strange ideas shows a deep misunderstanding of the facts of life.

I suppose this is bound to be a fact with anyone who has a lefty/green outlook on life, but when it becomes as profound as yours, help is needed. I suggest you seek it urgently.

It has not sunk in to most on this debate that this problem is insoluble.
The world population is rising quite steadily and resources are diminishing quite quickly, especially water.
The only true solution is to reduce the population.
I can hear the screams of protest about "culling", "eugenics" and from some "good thing too".
The proposition I have is none of those.
If we offered a free trip with citizenship into Australia for any woman who had already had two or more children providing she was willing to have a hysterectomy and also any married man who had two or more children and was willing to have a vasectomy that would slow down the flood.
Of course the present huge flow of migrants and various workers visa holders would have to be stopped.
It would also be made clear that any migrants or refugees would not be allowed to settle here unless they met these requirements i.e. they were now infertile.
This would stop deaths at sea.
The big corporations would scream at having their flow of cheap labour cut off but hard luck for them.
It would also help if we could persuade other countries to follow suit with this program.

I am afraid that Robert is right. The problem is unsolvable.
Water, food and energy decline is THE problem.

If you plot a graph from say 1850 to today and put on it population
and oil production, shock horror they coincide exactly. The lines lay
one on top of the other.
As oil production has peaked, and there are signs that decline (including tight oil etc)
is upon us, inevitably there will be a huge increase on boat people.
As oil production declines, so will population, delayed by malnutrition.
Egypt has already experienced this effect. It is the example that the
world will follow. Charity is delaying Egypt's population decline.