The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > 'No' to the Death Penalty - Then What ?

'No' to the Death Penalty - Then What ?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. Page 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. All
Banjo Paterson,

Thank you for the kind comment.

Thanks too for drawing attention to the Swiss model.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 12:16:10 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Many thanks to you ONTHEBEACH and BANJO PATERSON...

Both of you tackled a very complex and convoluted Topic. I'm sure that none of us are rarely ever completely right or completely wrong. Only through the medium of rational discussion do we all learn so much, from each other. You're already know the immense admiration I hold you in ONTHEBEACH, even though your opinions occasionally draw 'fire' from those of the far Left !

BANJO PATERSON, I hope to hear much more from you. You certainly have a very firm 'handle' on this Topic I must say, again I learnt so much from you both, I really did. Thank you so very much.
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 3:59:05 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
.

Let us cease our idle chatter,
Let the tears bedew our cheek,
For a man from Tallangatta
Has been missing for a week.

Where the roaring flooded Murray
Covered all the lower land,
There he started in a hurry
With a bottle in his hand.

And his fate is bid for ever,
But the public seem to think
That he slumbered by the river,
'Neath the influence of drink.

And they scarcely seem to wonder
That the river, wide and deep,
Never woke him with its thunder,
Never stirred him in his sleep.

And the crashing logs came sweeping
And their tumult filled the air,
Then M'Ginnis murmured, sleeping,
"'Tis a wake in ould Kildare."

So the river rose and found him
Sleeping softly by the stream.
And the cruel waters drowned him
Ere he wakened from his dream.

And the blossom-tufted wattle,
Blooming brightly on the lea,
Saw M'Ginnis and the bottle
Going drifting out to sea.

How M'Ginnis Went Missing (1889)

.
Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 8:04:57 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Hi BANJO PATERSON...

There's nothing like a piece of prose to carefully articulate a 'fact in issue' ! Again, I thank you.
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 9:01:46 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I was reminded to retire to a comfy chair with a beautiful book of Banjo Paterson poetry a loved one gave me in 1981. She had noticed the prints I had about my home. Titled simply Poems by Banjo Paterson, it is illustrated by Pro Hart. [Lansdown Press, Sydney, 6th impression. 1980]

Prelude
I have gathered these stories afar
In the wind and the rain,
In the land where the cattle-camps are,
On the edge of the Plain.
On the overland routes of the west,
When the watches were long,
I have fashioned in earnest and jest
These fragments of song.
They are just the rude stories one hears
In sadness and mirth,
The records of wandering years —
And scant is their worth.
Though their merits indeed are but slight,
I shall not repine
If they give you one moment’s delight,
Old comrades of mine.
[Banjo Paterson, 1895]

o sung wu

Thanks to you too for your civility and dry wit.

Travel well.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 10:00:36 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
In the case of someone like Ivan Milat I think the death penalty
would be entirely justified.

In the case of Daniel Morcombes killer, again, the death penalty is justice and entirely appropriate.

The death penalty needs to only be applied in the most horrific of crimes and common sense used in which crimes these are.
Not just willy, nilly for some drug pushers, who I grant you, reign misery and death also down on their victims. But it is not as cold blooded and without choice by the victims, as Ivan Milats crimes were.

Its simple- If you think you have the right to forfeit someones
life without any mitigating circumstances, then you forfeit yours.

Those anti-the-death penalty, are placing their sympathies in the
wrong place, with the purpertrator and not the victim.
In fact the punishment after the courts and appeals etc. should
be ultimately decided by the victims family.

Everybody else should butt out, because it wasn't their child or
mother or father who was murdered. If the family is willing to
for go their right to justice for their dead member, then that is
solely their call. It has nothing to do with the rest.
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 10:26:28 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. Page 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy