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Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 1:25:15 PM
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Muslim woman asks a question and probably wishes she didn't
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAoXgZLRee0 Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 2:01:11 PM
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Dear rehctub,
It's a natural thing I guess to be wary of anything that's different from the norm. That happens everywhere not only in this country. However, extremists interpret their culture and religion to suit their particular agendas. There are so many linguisitc, cultural, and racial differences amongst the Muslims - that they can't be described as all being exactly the same. Not all Jews paractice their beliefs in exactly the same way. Not all Christians practice their religion in exactly the same way, and so on. Banning any particular religion is not very logical. It will only strengthen adversity rather than focusing on cohesion which is what we should be striving towards. It may take up to two or even three generations to this country to become fully assimilated. Although as I stated previously the fear-mongering by our politicians, including the current government's emphasis on "security " and the media - does not help the situation. Neither do the shock-jocks, and certain political, ill-informed commentators. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 2:20:57 PM
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Fox,
Your dreams will be fulfilled if L'il Willie Shorten and Labor, who propose to ramp up migration from the middle East. <October 25: Shorten delivered a speech advocating a dramatic increase in Australia's intake of refugees from the Middle-East: "Labor believes Australia can play a greater role in the international effort to provide refuge to the persecuted. Nearly two million Iraqis have fled their homes in the face of the ISIL advance – and millions more have been displaced by the conflict in Syria... "Given the scope and scale of the current crisis gripping the region, Labor believes that, as a starting point, those seeking refuge from the current crisis in Iraq and Syria should be taken in addition to the existing allocation..." This is significant policy shift. Given that most asylum seekers who came to Australia during the Labor years came from the Middle-East, and the Sunni-Shia schism has displaced millions of people, this represents an open-ended commitment to accept "those seeking refuge", which points to a massive increase in the intake from the Middle East.> From your approved 'MSM', The Sydney Morning Herald. You will be able to enjoy the Muslim call to prayer wherever you are. Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 2:37:52 PM
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Rehctub wrote: “My opinion is we need to ban the religion/faith, call it what you like and, if these moderate Muslims, for want of a better word don't like that, we simply need to remind them it was their doing by bringing their baggage with them that is the cause of the problems.”
Dear Rehctub, When the English came to Australia they slaughtered a number of Aborigines who didn’t like other people taking over their land. Many of the surviving Aborigines were forced to live on missions. On the missions they were not allowed to practice their religion, but were forced to follow the various Christian sects of those who ran the missions. There was a complete lack of respect for their faith. That lack of respect still exists today. I go to a community pool in the morning. One of the other people in the pool told me that some of the Aborigines were devil worshipers. I asked him what he meant by that. His son, a missionary, has seen them doing a ceremonial dance which originated in their Aboriginal faith. He cited Archbishop Jensen of the Sydney Diocese of the Anglican Church who called non-Christian religions ‘tools of Satan.’ The English had brought their religious baggage and intolerance to Australia. The Australian problem dates back to 1788. The problem of religious intolerance goes back thousands of years. It seems most severe with the monotheistic religions. By the time of federation most Christians were moderate although some extremists still exist. The Australian Constitution contains the following: S. 116 The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth. Bible bashing Christian fundamentalists have succeeded in bringing chaplains to the public schools. However, Christianity is currently much less of a problem since most Christians are tolerant and accept other faiths. Some Muslims have done the same. S. 116 prevents banning any religion. Posted by david f, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 2:38:35 PM
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Dear David,
<<S. 116 prevents banning any religion.>> But it's an empty statement: unless there was an agreed definition of 'religion', which there isn't. Otherwise the state can still ban any group and any practice it wants, simply by telling: "what you stand for isn't truly a religion". While I may agree from a spiritual perspective that certain groups who call themselves a "religion" aren't so (or might have been so once but aren't so any more), this presents a dangerous slippery-slope. Allowing the secular state to determine what is or isn't a "religion" is like allowing the cat to guard the cream. Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 3:07:37 PM
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So although they may well be great people, it's the beliefs they chose to bring with them that's caused most if the problems being experienced pretty much wherever they decide to imitate to.
My opinion is we need to ban the religion/faith, call it what you like and, if these moderate Muslims, for want of a better word don't like that, we simply need to remind them it was their doing by bringing their baggage with them that is the cause of the problems.