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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 5:53:05 PM
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Fox, "Equating Islam with Jihadi terrorists means equating etc"
You have been corrected on that Shorten spin many times before. Here, from Paul Sheehan's report, September 25: [Bill Shorten's] open letter also made the claim, since repeated, that Islamic State is not Islamic: "We know that the twisted ideology of ISIL bears no relation to a faith of peace, love and tolerance which is followed by millions around the world – and we will continue to make this point. ISIL has no right to use the name of Islam." The electorate does not buy this. Islamic State may be a lure for psychopaths and a loathsome fringe of Islam, but it is self-evidently Islamic. It justifies all its actions by an ultra-orthodox reading of the Koran. It feeds off the injustice felt by Sunni Muslims at their oppression by Shia-dominated governments in Iran, Iraq and Syria. The Sunni-Shia schism now involves tens of thousands of fighters operating in five countries. Islamic State is to Islam what creationists are to Christianity. The literal interpretation of the Bible may be medieval, irrational and dismissed by the Christian mainstream, but there is no question that creationists are Christians. There are tens of millions of creationists in the United States and Africa, but they are not waging holy war.> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/bill-shortens-bubble-starting-to-deflate-20150308-13y9x5.htm Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 6:07:30 PM
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Foxy, O sung,
See my earlier post, when we talk about radical Muslims we're talking about that 25% of the Islamic world population who hold such views as has been consistently shown in polls and surveys of Muslims. That's somewhere in the region of 300 million people with whom we are effectively at war,to put it in perspective that's significantly more than the 1933 populations of Germany, Japan and the Soviet Union combined. The peaceful Muslims are irrelevant as the speaker in the video says, but of course another 40% of adult Muslims agree with the views of the Jihadis but believe the killing of civilians to be wrong. The Jihadis and Islamists unilaterally declared war on us because it's foretold in Islamic eschatlogy, they're following an Islamic timetable for the "end times" and that's the only reason they're waging war against us. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 6:09:26 PM
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Dear Jay,
Just complaining about things doesn't achieve anything - except perhaps justifying non-action. However, actually doing something about it - might achieve more. It's worth a try. Because as the old adage tells us - "If you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what you've got. Expecting anything different is not very bright. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 6:10:37 PM
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Foxy,
Just read the the Noble Qur'an - القرآن الكريم Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 6:19:51 PM
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just disregard القرآن الكريم
I was trying to be smart and add some Arabic script; mea culpa! Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 6:22:02 PM
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At least I'm complaining on my own account and not on behalf of people I never knew the way David F does.
We don't have it good, no honest working person on the planet has an easy life and Australians, particularly White Australians are the least likely to make a fuss, maybe if they did we really would live in a decent society.
The only people who have a good life are the parasitic upper and middle classes, everyone else is just a stepping stone in their advancement.