Hasbeen.
Don't the Paul 1405 et to you. He is pro. He hate coppers and loves the dark side of society.
Just ignore him.

Chris, where have you been, throwing gays into the Parramatta River? Think I have forgotten that comment from you, many moons ago.

God I hope not.

We wouldn't want to pollute the Parramatta river again, not after we finally got it cleaned up.

Just found this thread. Fascinating ! Why is everybody so polite and civil ? Where is the entertaining abuse of yesteryear ?

'Disadvantage' and 'welfare': do the two have to work in opposite directions ? Is it possible to devise only 'welfare' programs which quite specifically enable able-bodied people to move from where they are to where they could be ? For example, that all able-bodied unemployed people, Black AND white, should be required to be involved in a Twiggy-Forrest-type program of identifying jobs, then training recipients for those jobs ? Or going onto further study in genuine, employment-oriented study programs ? And ever onwards and upwards - we each have only one life, so why not make the very best of it ?

As for that notion of fractional Blackfellas: why not simply enforce means tests for benefits, for a start ?

As well, for all those programs which are implicitly designed for explicitly-disadvantaged Aboriginal people, say from rural and remote areas, and NOT for urban people from relatively affluent and working backgrounds - why not enforce the requirement that anybody claiming to be Aboriginal, and 'therefore' applying for specific benefits (grants, scholarships, apprenticeships, etc.) must be able to demonstrate strong community links, perhaps through having worked in or for Aboriginal community organisations as well ?

Yes, all these mechanisms can be rorted, but one step at a time :)

It's amazing how early some of these dilemmas arose, and how often similar remedies have been proposed, in every State, and on average about every ten to fifteen years. I guess that's Aboriginal affairs.

Joe

The problem is that the now officially cited child abusers and torturers in the guvment want to be seen as if they are doing the right thing by the Original people, where in reality what they do is maintain martial law, over pay their mates and hand out a few scraps from the table.

You must remember the lions share of grants gets consumed by dead wood pencil fiddlers. So, in that regard, it goes directly back into the economy and isn't wasted at all, except to the extent that people who don't need it get most of it.

There is another problem. And that is the down trodden poor whiteys who indeed are made to do it tuff. And of course, it is from this corner that we get the worst of the racism and bigotry because they are usually uninformed. The title of this thread says it. As if we needed to define what constitutes Aboriginality when you people as a majority have voted for the people who have for generations used a definition of what constitutes Aboriginality to murder, steal, rape and pillage.

No, the scum in the guvments have no legitimate right to tell these people anything at all.

What is required is a return of Sovereignty and a return of land & sea and then the Original people can over time be capexed into independence, culminating in a situation where they are largely happy ( in that they have their land back) and where the poor white trash are no longer whining about paying reparations, which to be fair, could be used to take something of the mountain of their backs.

Their land, under the auspices of their own nation state in its entirety. That means, no you can't turn up and mine as you please and if you send a satellite overhead in the absence of a treaty you risk getting it shot down.

A two country continent, as it always should have been.

DreamOn, "if you send a satellite overhead in the absence of a treaty you risk getting it shot down".

What absolute nonsense! Are you friends with an exclusive Russian President or civilized citizen of the World?