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Defining Aboriginality

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Josephus segregation has been considered before, the trouble is they will still play the victim card. They are very good at it. They must be to have been able to get support for so long when they are 1 32nd or so
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 5 March 2015 11:07:16 AM
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I am suggesting all aboriginals to 1/8 who wish to claim aboriginal status be granted suitable areas to earn income, eg fish farms, cattle and livestock [kangaroo, camel, buffalo, emu, crocodile etc] stations, forests for milling etc. All those eligible would be given a government grant to establish their project and supported on a diminishing scale up to five years. All those outside these guidelines live under the conditions of the general community.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 5 March 2015 7:53:29 PM
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Josephus.

I'm sure your 'put them back on the reservation' idea is well intended, with those kangaroo and buffalo ideas of yours. Again reality cuts in, and it tells me 53% (ABS) of Indigenous Australians live in major cities or inner regional Australia and only 22% are classed as living in remote Australia where I'm sure the crocodile farm idea would gain some traction. Unfortunately a Mount Druitt fish farm might not be received with the same enthusiasm, and be destined to wash right down the drain with the first big rain.
What do you have in mind for our urban indigenous, who incidentally are our largest single group by far, merchant banking or insurance businesses in the CBD?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 5 March 2015 9:31:04 PM
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Paul1405, "What do you have in mind for our urban indigenous, who incidentally are our largest single group by far.."

An earlier thread is relevant,

'More records broken in Indigenous Higher Education'
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5914&page=1

In it, this post for instance and I have quoted a section,

"Back in 2007, my late wife wrote an article about what she called the 'two Indigenous populations' - one which was work-oriented, and therefore education-oriented, and the other which was welfare-oriented and therefore grog- and abuse-oriented. Sorry, that's how we saw it. One population had decent health, education, employment etc. stats, the other had shocking stats.

The two populations overlap, of course, and in, say, a graduate's family, there will be drop-kicks and boozers, and occasionally, vice versa. But the two paths are moving off in different directions and it is up to the people - not that outsiders can do much at all - to decide which path to take. Dropkicks make their own decisions too.

But they are not puppets, or twigs in a stream, being driven hither and thither - they are agents in their own lives, and make their own stupid and disastrous decisions. Seriously - such people THINK they are being smart, clever, tricking the system, by avoiding education and skills, and therefore work, and staying on welfare and in that semi-criminal zone. Yes, there's a lot of violent death in that zone, but it's a bit late to think about it until afterwards.

So I don't bother much about them. There are many, many others who want to make a go of their lives. They are the precious ones, the people who will make a positive difference, who make an effort to contribute. They make up, i reckon, around two-thirds of the Indigenous population, are very often inter-married, and are raising their kids to a work ethic. They're not the dung beetles hanging around the @rse of the last giant Diprotodon. To me, they are the future of Indigenous people."

Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 4:17:35 PM
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5914&page=2

What do you say to that?
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 6 March 2015 2:17:57 PM
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Beach, what do I say to that, great positive, not the negativity that some posts contain. Then again that could just as easily be said about the white population as well.
How does that stack up against the post from Butch;

<< the trouble is they (indigenous) will still play the victim card. They (indigenous) are very good at it. They(indigenous) must be to have been able to get support for so long when they are 1 32nd or so>>

Butch implies it is an inherent trait of indigenous people to be devious in their actions when it come to gaining undeserved taxpayer support.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 6 March 2015 6:45:00 PM
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Paul, if aboriginal people live in urban society then they compete for employment the same as those in society. When I worked in Smithfield we employed a 1/4 caste aboriginal and he made an excellent welder. He did not want welfare like his cousins.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 6 March 2015 8:03:26 PM
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