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Defining Aboriginality

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Paul1405,

Yes, I do agree.

It was decent of you to reach out and put it so straight too.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 7 March 2015 12:29:42 PM
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Paul1405,
Are you saying education given by non aboriginals is not good enough training in skills? All those industries I have mentioned are not Indigenous skills suitable to give them income, when they only gather enough for today, and live off each other's gatherings.

"Any programs should be inclusive with indigenous input, not white man imposing what he see as best. Workable positive ideas should always be welcomed".

If they want to supply fish to the local markets they must develop their own fish farms with government assistance, and experienced fish farms expertise etc etc.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 8 March 2015 8:29:51 PM
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<<If they want to supply fish to the local markets they must develop their own fish farms with government assistance, and experienced fish farms expertise etc etc>>

If that is the desire of a indigenous community/group then who supplies the assistance/expertise is some what irrelevant to me. Where indigenous people have the expertise to train/educate all the better, rewarding to both parties, but it should not be a barrier in itself.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 8 March 2015 9:14:13 PM
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Josephus, "If they [aborigines] want to supply fish to the local markets they must develop their own fish farms with" no assistance from any taxpayer funds.

They should have to put up their own money as anyone else would. They should have to deal with obstructionists councils & state governments, as everyone does.

They should have to spend millions on environmental impact statements as anyone else would, & put up with vacuous interference, & legal challenges from ratbag greens, trying to cost them a fortune, & destroy their attempt to do something useful.

When they have done all this, they will have finally joined the community, which currently supports them from birth to death.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 8 March 2015 10:24:32 PM
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Hasbeen, why do I always imagine you dressed in a safari suit, pith helmet on head, big droopy mustache, blunderbuss at the ready, native beaters in the background, all in pursuit of the elusive elephant. You are indeed the last of the great white hunters! You defiantly belong in another age and time with a comment like that.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 9 March 2015 6:57:17 AM
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Probably because you are an out of date bleeding heart, who has not yet, [probably never will], realise we no longer have the money to throw at ridiculous feel good schemes for aboriginals, or dole bludgers for that matter.

Do you remember a similar scheme to make Palm Island work. The one where they were given a dozen overpriced diesel fishing dories, so they could make a fortune supplying Townsville's fish supplies? That little stupidity cost only about $360,000

Yea I thought you would be trying to forget that smart idea. Particularly when the only one still in one piece & running after a couple of months was the one doing the sly grog run to Townsville & back. That one made millions, but was also stuffed by 5 months.

Then there was the time we supplied $60,000 worth of brass water saving showerheads, when the island was running out of water. Big mistake. They were heavy. In 3 weeks every one of them had been used as fishing sinkers. Next good idea please.

As for me, the helmet was a nuisance working on my 1950s tractor, & kept blowing off when I was slashing or ploughing. It & the safari suit were too hot & sweaty for working on my 70s cars, & I couldn't get them on over my work boots. I prefer overalls. The good king G ones can absorb more grease before you have to wash them too.

Na! Those safari suits are for lefty posers.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 9 March 2015 3:26:32 PM
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