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Posted by chrisgaff1000, Sunday, 1 March 2015 10:57:24 PM
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Instead of having a binary yes/no to the question of whether someone is entitled, how about we give handouts in proportion to their percentage of Aboriginality (with a lower cut off limit of say 1/8th).
eg: if someone has a full Aboriginal father and a Japanese Mother we say that are of 50% aboriginal heritage so they are eligible to receive 50% of any government entitlement. (By the way: for those who think this is crazy idea: We already have entitlement systems where the amounts involved are proportionally awarded: eg. injury compensation-- the governments have lists that detail how much each body part is worth.) Posted by thinkabit, Monday, 2 March 2015 10:27:29 AM
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chrisgaff1000, you've got one thing right: reality is not racism. Unfortunately your post is based more on the latter than the former. In reality there hasn't been any incredible growth of indegenous numbers, and there's not very much welfare advantage in being Aboriginal anyway.
Aboriginal people are a disadvantaged minority, and what we shoudl be doing is addressing the problems that cause the disadvantage. Introducing blood quanta requirements would do absolutely nothing to address the disadvantage, but would ensure they always remain a minority. It would also make us a more divided nation, as it would ensure people are treated differently according to race. And it would greatly increase people's sense of injsustice. It's an entirely bad idea. Posted by Aidan, Monday, 2 March 2015 10:49:36 AM
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The topic has a racist ending. Education is the only way of getting kids away from the camp.
Posted by 579, Monday, 2 March 2015 10:56:55 AM
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Aiden, "In reality there hasn't been any incredible growth of indegenous numbers"
What you assert as fact is the exact opposite of the truth. For comparison, population in the world is currently growing at a rate of around 1.14% per year. [http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/#growthrate] "AUSTRALIA ...Between 1991 and 2006 the Indigenous population increased by 2.6% per year on average, compared with 1.2% for the total Australian population. The population of Indigenous Australians is projected to increase to between 713,300 and 721,100 people in 2021, at an average growth rate of 2.2% per year. In comparison, the average growth rate of the total Australian population is projected to be between 1.2% and 1.7% per year over the same period (Population Projections, Australia, 2006 to 2101, cat. no. 3222.0)." http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/946D4BC28DB92E1BCA25762A001CBF38?opendocument All of the growth in Aboriginal numbers is solely due to growth in that resident population. However the growth in the broader 'Australian' population is entirely due to the increase in the number of Aborigines. Whereas the mainstream population of Australia, at the urgent behest of the academic elite at the time achieved the desired Zero Population Growth way back in the Seventies and have maintained ZPG ever since. It is very evident then that increases in the population of Australia are due to to increase in Aborigine numbers and from migrants (and reunion benefits). What is also true but is NOT admitted and is in FACT concealed by federal governments who push a 'Big Australia' is that the large growth in the aged is affected significantly by the record numbers of migrants post-WW2 and after. tbc.. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 2 March 2015 2:04:52 PM
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In FACT, government reports have consistently shown that young Aussie couples are delaying their marriages and children because they cannot afford the large taxes to build the infrastructure and support the welfare of 'victim' groups which includes migrants apparently. The luckless, exasperated young Aussie couples say they are NOT eventually having the children they wanted. That shows clearly why their population is tracking behind ZPG. To 'counteract', the federal government continues with record numbers of migrants, increasing the load on young working Australians. Many migrants and particularly economic migrants coming from the most populous ethnic groups on Earth. What is evident then and is the policy of leftist 'Progressives' is that the 'white' inheritance responsible for the democratic traditions, the Westminster system of government and Australian law are being diluted to extinction over time. Rather than playing the man with the over-worn racism card, what about challenging the arguments put forward by the OP with facts and where problems do exist (and there are problems of welfare dependency for example) with your solutions? Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 2 March 2015 2:05:46 PM
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Since it is the public purse that supports the vast majority of indigenous recipients the same public has a right to know just what, where and why his taxes are being handed out to so many people claiming aboriginality whilst being more Caucasian than aboriginal.
Australia is a divided nation. On one side there is the honest, hard working,tax paying citizen of whatever descent struggling to make ends meet and on the other the indigenous welfare dependent playing poker machines, guzzling alcohol and using drugs all on the public purse.
Reality is not racism and this is the reality we are facing today.