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Should we change the date of Australia Day?
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Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 25 January 2015 11:57:36 PM
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Jay,
"The Aboriginals immediately abandoned their old way of life because the British offered them something better, that's the way colonisation works, it's how 70,000 British were able to govern 150 million Indians." Hardly! The British were able to govern India by being well armed! As for Australia, it varied greatly among tribes. A few did abandon their old way of life because the British offered them something better. But many more were forced to abandon it by those who were better armed. "Because Lefties see all non Whites as inferior they can't credit Aborigines with the brains to have been able to see that they were better off adopting superior European technology and customs straight away." Lefties see all people as equally important, and recognise that differences in ability between races are tiny compared to the differences within races. European technology was more advanced, but the most advanced technology isn't always what's superior for a particular purpose. And nor were European customs always superior. Coming to the same conclusions as you would be an indicator of lack of intelligence. Posted by Aidan, Monday, 26 January 2015 1:32:31 AM
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Is Mise,
<<The big problems would have been overcome if they had not been continued by the "Aboriginal Industry" wherein many people profited by keeping the Aboriginal people down.>> Is there any actual evidence for that? It looks to me like a blame shifting attempt to deny Aboriginal people the resources they need to succeed. <<In 1967 the people of Australia voted for all Aboriginal people to be treated no differently to the rest of the citizens, had the wishes of the people been followed, instead of keeping Aboriginals dependent, then today there would be no problem.>> A very revisionist claim there! Though treating people equally was long overdue, it did not solve all problems and it created problems of its own (e.g. equal pay resulted in mass sackings). Posted by Aidan, Monday, 26 January 2015 1:45:24 AM
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Adrian,
<<Most black on black infringements are resolved….>> The infringements I was alluding to were inter–tribal warfare and massacres. Whilst the ABC and SBS delight in running regularly informercials on incidents where whites killed Aboriginals. And it is a key part of many university literature study strands (through the texts selected) . There is a PC wall-of-silence around Aboriginal on Aboriginal atrocities. That is an imbalance which does great damage and needs to be corrected. <<Have you any evidence.. the Greens believe (Oz was Eden-like before Europeans arrived) ?>> Do i ever! Exhibit A . Just take a geeza at Paul1405's posts they reek of/with Edenic imagery for pre-European Australia. Posted by SPQR, Monday, 26 January 2015 6:41:04 AM
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Apologies Aidan --my post(above) wrong called you Adrian
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 26 January 2015 6:42:32 AM
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Aidan,
After 48 years of throwing money at the problem it still exists; very many Aboriginal people are still second class citizens plagued with social problems, had they and their problems been treated the same as for European (or whatever)Australians, under the same laws, then that would have been equality, true equality. For all those who think that Aboriginal Australians were denied the right to vote until 1967, this from Wikipedia: "The acquisition of voting rights by Indigenous Australians began in the late-19th century but was not completed in every jurisdiction until the mid-20th century. Under Australia's federal system, restrictions on Aborigines voting in state and federal elections varied until the 1960s, during which decade all remaining restrictions were eradicated. In 1962, the Menzies Government (1949-1966) amended the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 to enable all Aboriginal Australians to enroll to vote in Australian federal elections. In 1965, Queensland became the last state to remove restrictions on Aborigines voting in state elections. The Holt Government's 1967 referendum overwhelmingly endorsed automatic inclusion of Aboriginal people in the national census. Indigenous Australians had first begun to acquire voting rights along with other adults living in Britain's Australian colonies from the late-19th century [1] in 1894. Other than in Queensland and Western Australia, Aboriginal men were not excluded from voting alongside their non-indigenous counterparts in the Australian colonies and in South Australia Aboriginal women also acquired the vote from 1895 onward. Following federation in 1901 however, new legislation restricted Aboriginal voting rights in federal elections. For a time Aborigines could vote in some states and not in others, though from 1949, Aborigines could vote if they were ex-servicemen and by 1967 Aborigines had equal rights in all states and territories. In 1971, Neville Bonner became the first Aboriginal to sit in the Federal Parliament. It is not compulsory for any Indigenous Australian to vote in any Australian election.[2]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_of_Australian_Aborigines Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 26 January 2015 6:46:21 AM
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White supremacist have nothing but a low opinion of non whites, including Aboriginals. We only need to look at the track record of National Socialists in power and how they treat those who do not meet the standard for what they believe to be the ideal (white) human being. Are you saying this time around things would be different with the likes of those people in power? And you claim its the "Lefties" who see non whites as inferior, I do not agree but it may be so. However others given the opportunity would rather see non whites as no more. Jay where do you stand? Your past posting speaks for itself.