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How to prevent or contain terrorist acts in Australia?

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The learning from the Rotherham (UK) crimes against children is that where mistakes are made in immigration policies and decisions, there is no way of ever turning the clock back.

The toxic political system, noxious culture and criminality imported with migrants and 'refugees' from the Kashmir will never completely abate, at least not in the lifetimes of anyone living today. It is all inextricably interwoven and systemic. Obviously too, the post traumatic after-effects for victims and in many cases drug dependence (offenders forced drugs on them), which also affects their children, many of whom too were conceived though force and deception.

The worry is that neither in the UK nor Australia has the government made any real attempt to produce and public a comprehensive risk analysis of migration (and asylum seekers). Any claimed risk treatments claimed by government must therefore be suspect and likely ineffective. Rotherham proved that to be the case in the UK. Later, it is again politically convenient to sweep it all under the carpet and carry on regardless.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 28 December 2014 12:43:55 PM
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I'm no expert on WWI, but I do believe Australia's first "action" in the 'War To End All Wars' (we could have a endless discussion on that one alone), was the annexing of German New Guinea;

The Australian occupation of German New Guinea was the takeover of the Pacific colony of German New Guinea in September – November 1914 by an expeditionary force from Australia, called the Australian Naval and Military Expeditionary Force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_occupation_of_German_New_Guinea

There is a commemorative plaque near Central Railway Station Sydney commemorating the spot the 1st AIF marshaled before marching to Woolloomooloo for embarkation to Egypt, not sure of the date, but it was well after war was declared.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 28 December 2014 12:44:32 PM
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Paul1405,
I'm looking at my great grandfather's service record and he enlisted in December 1914, departed Melbourne in February 1915 in a reinforcement company for 6 Batallion, he landed on Gallipoli in mid May 1915.
So the induction and basic training was only a few weeks, some weeks of further training in Egypt then into action.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 28 December 2014 8:22:51 PM
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Jay, I think you are correct, the training was very basic indeed. Those landing at Gallipoli were mostly raw recruits and would have had no idea of war as such. The men of the regular army, a few would have had war experience, some would have served in South Africa during the Boer War, but that had ended 13 years previous.
One thing that is forgotten about Gallipoli is the number Turks killed, overall an estimated 250,000 including an estimated 70,000 fighting ANZAC troops, Australia and New Zealand lost around 11,500, Although it was a Turkish victory in the end they paid a very high price for that victory.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 28 December 2014 8:59:34 PM
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Paul,
I found a ref to the march to embark,

'After marching through the streets of Sydney the battalion was embarked on HMT “Afric” on the 18th October bound for Albany, Western Australia. On 1st November the fleet totaling 36 ship carrying 29,500 men departed for Cairo, Egypt'.

I now recall a recent large event in Albany commemorating the fleet departure from Albany in 1914.

War was declared on the 4th August 1914 and by the 20th 10,000 had enlisted.

Can you recall where that plaque is? On Broadway, I expect, or could be Eddy Ave or even in Belmore park. When next in Sydney I will look it up.

OTB,
Yes governments are good at hiding things. Rotherham is a good example. Fraser was advised that the Lebanese were not suitable migrants but ignored that.

Their was a report by the Muslim Womens Association about muslim former husbands turning up at the home of their former wives and demanding sex. Claiming they were still married under muslim law despite our courts granting divorce. This report was done in Melbourne and Rudd buried it and it still has not been tabled in Parliament.

Only a month or so ago, the smh had an article about corruption within the DIAC. Morrison called for an urgent report, but still have heard nothing further.

Like you, I fail to understand why we allow entry of those groups that have shown us they will not integrate and cause us social problems. Governments will not admit they got it wrong. I would find nothing easier than to ban entry to Afghans if they have a culture of sex exploitation of young boys and girls. Our kids are at risk
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 28 December 2014 9:02:58 PM
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Dear Banjo,

Talking about sex exploitation of young children -
did you happen to see "Sixty Minutes," this
evening? It dealt with Daniel Morcombe and the
man who raped and killed him. That man was not from
the Middle East or an Arab or a Muslim. He had a history
of sex offences - and he's not the only one in this
country doing vile things to children as history has
shown. If you're talking about banning certain groups
of people simply because of their country of origin -
where do we draw the line because as we've seen from
some of the evil behaviour on display in this country -
it doesn't always come just from members of only one
group.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 December 2014 9:17:51 PM
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