David
The whole idea of asking for your assistance was for you to draft a letter to them.
The over all message being that they need to do something about their role as leaders and the non action towards guidence regarding animal welfare.
As I said on the other thread at least Muslim Leaders have spoken out about Animal cruelty over all and put out a sensible and informative press release re live exports.
I mean really five times aired on 60 minutes and they sit in silence?

Saying oh we only care for people is discusting.
They could at least do some bible classes teaching our young their reasponsibiltys to Gods creatures.
As for the farmers we know they would appreciate hay and water before paid prayers.
For goodness sake David these lot are meant to be our leaders.
What type of leaders do nothing in regards to animal cruelty.
For that matter what type of people.
Its NOT good enough.
We are ashamed of our so called Church leaders.
Are you just going to except they do nothing for animals David.?

I have been following this with one eye PALE because I am a great fan of the Salvation Army and the work they do. I have known many in my life, and they are individually invariably the most caring, and collectively the least bigoted, people I have met.

It isn't particularly clear what you would like to happen, and why.

As far as I am aware, the Salvos provide a service predominantly to homeless and destitute people, with a side order of drug dependencies, domestic violence, gamblers and wayward youth. They are constantly short of funds to meet these commitments.

I would take an opposing view, if asked whether my donation should be spent on human beings or animals - I would insist that people took priority.

There are many charities dedicated to animals. Why can you not use those instead of harrassing the good folk at Elizabeth Street.

We too praise many of the Salvation Army Staff. Half of my own family worked to assist people with them in days gone by.
It should be clear to you that we are not against there work with people.
We are protesting their blind eye and lack of "leadership" to God Creatures.
If you are collecting public funds for drought stricken farmers one might think that dying animals would be part of that.
Why do you have to choose . Why cant they show leadership for BOTH. After all we are all Gods creatures.
They have as I said before remained silent right though no less than five docs on 60 minutes regarding barbaric cruelty.
They have no leadership in Churches towards kindness to animals.
D Hugh Wirth The X President of RSPCA address a press conference about this serious over sight here.
http://www.livexports.com/hughwirth.html
You might also ike to read the difference coming from our Australian Muslim Leaders.
http://www.livexports.com/afic.html

A few words of leadership costs nothing.
And is the moral thing to do.
Saying you only look after people is slack slack slack
Shame on our Christian Leaders.
They have turned their backs on Gods creatures.
There is a clear link between domestic violence and Animal Cruelty
Perhaps you could read one of the many books on the subject.

We intend to start our own church and educate the public and our children to include Gods creatures.
When WE fund raise for drought will most certainly will include the farmers stock and help as much as possible.
Here are some of the good people following Gods Work
They DO help with feed and water and they DONT take one cent in wages.
Praise the Lord. There are churches working with these people. Yes!
just not the Salvation Army that all.
Real Christians

http://www.aussiehelpers.org.au/

Please note including fodder for starving stock Maddam>

http://www.donations.com.au/lcharity.asp?chID=4587

PALE the idea of 'starting your own church' is interesting.

I'll just signal the one major danger of strong personalities diverting the vision.. it happened in the Brethren.. split and sub split.. but usually a personality thing.

Bottom line, keep it simple.. keep it pure from ambition.. keep that first love which Jesus spoke about to the church at Ephesus.

Base it on the Word, rather than opinion.. and constantly seek the mind of God in the whole counsel of scripture. I'm so glad that we have the net these days. We can virtually goto Bible school from our home offices.

Well.. a full, well rounded, and comprehensive approach to our relationship with God in Christ and to our fellow man and the whole of creation is to be encouraged for sure.
blessings
BD

Amen Boaz

It is simply.
God is good God is kind.
God created the earth and 'all living creatures.
We will let you know how it goes. People have asked us many times before.
I do have some good news Boaz. Another three Catholoic Churches up here are now doing the blessing of the Animals on World Animal Day.
Also a fantasic Church Leader from Reach Out For Christ Steve Ryder who met with RSPCA CEO and myself a couple of years ago who saw footage of live exports is going to try to help.
We are welcome to go there anytime to draw attention to the animals plight regarding live Animal Exports and intensive Farming.
There are Churches helping the Aussie Helpers deliver fodder for stock too. They do it for nothing. Good People Boaz. I work for nothing. its an hounour to serve the lord and help his animals. They have been forgotten by the large part of church Leaders.
So I guess it all comes down to real people and real leadership and real Christians.
There is a fantasic Church Leader Minister in Melbourne who attended a meeting with myself and CEO RSPCA QLD to Senator Steve Fielding to ask him to stand up against Live exports.

We have been waiting four years for him to reply so there you go.- Another great Leader?
I dont understand why other groups have not broght this to the publics attention before.
its amazing Boaz as you move around talking with the public- they all say. Hey Yeh Thats a good question why are our church Leaders so silent about Animal Cruelty.
All In all its a good response and we asre only just getting wound up.
We want to do a TV add of Live Exports with that song telphone to glory> Do you know it?
Then list all the Churches who are standing up for Gods Creatures.
Then the ones who dont.
You can judge a Nation by the way it treats its Animals.
Mahatma Gandhi

Ok once they're saved, they should leave country areas. I'm not sure why they stay...maybe they have no choice?

But haven't things been getting worse for more than several years? Why persist with a sinking ship and then demand subsidies and welfare to constantly sink money to maintain their subsitense? maybe something I don't know like they are forced at gunpoint to stay... but some of them spray chemicals well above safety regulations so i have little sympathy for those people.