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The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

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yvonne

'We have a very large, wonderful family who ALL get on with each other and love one another.'

sounds like you are very blessed.

What about when I make a comment, you actually directly answer it. Would you accept your son or daughter marrying somebody who has different beliefs to yours?

Of course I would accept my children marrying somebody of a different belief to me. They know the truth and its up to them to determine their future. Believe it or not some of my closest friends differ in their beliefs to me. Thats what makes Christianity different from Islam. It is always free choice to follow Christ while the Koran teaches forced submission.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:38:48 PM
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steelie: Ultimately the equation seems to be give zealots of any of the three Abrahamic faiths access to weaponry and power and things go haywire quickly

I couldn't agree with you more steelie. However Kony is an enigma. Maybe we could get him to take on that other of murdering scum in Uganda. One way or another they both need to be stopped, or is it OK for Boko Harem.

Poirot: Can you guys give me a rundown on all the dodgy violent verses in the Old Testament....after all, "It is a book with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of verses by a brutal, sadistic god..."

Yes I asked a Muslim in "Cutting the grass" for similar verses to:

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Telling people to kill unbelievers.

Sura (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (Margin note. "at home") and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (Margin note. "at home"). Unto all (Margin note . "Faith") Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (Margin note. "at home") by a special reward."

Telling people that Allah will reward them well for killing unbelievers.

Foxy: David Johnston, the Australian Minister of Defense, warned that the actions of extremists should not colour how the public feels about Islam as a whole.

Just the sort of Political Correctness that will lead to Jihad in Australia. I bet the Muslims are laughing in his face.

So, Yvonne you are Muslim.

Poirot: where you're embargoed, food and medicine limited,

Food, medicine & th other essentials of life are not embargoed. Weapons are.

Poirot: your freedom to come and go stopped.

If Hamas didn't try to send suicide bombers in, it wouldn't happen.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 10:41:41 PM
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Like one of my old mates said, the third world war will be against stupidity.
The dumbing-down is earnestly in progress & we have to thank the educated for it.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 11:24:21 PM
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Actually Individual, this is the First World War.
It started around 800AD and is still going.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 8:11:11 AM
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@Steele,

<<The last time I banged the drum over Saudi Arabia, about it exporting Wahhabism, about its terrible treatment of immigrant workers, of women...>>
Sorry Steele, I must have blinked and missed that. Could you kindly link me to it. I'm not doubting it occurred mind you. But secreted as it would be among your voluminous writings on Israel or the West generally it might be hard to locate.

<< You pick on the most blighted of the Muslim world for their temerity in attempting to seek asylum in this country>>
Arrh but here's the rub. The majority are not so much RUNNING FROM Islamic extremism as BRINGING IT WITH THEM. They would be quite happy to live under Wahhabi authoritarianism just so long as they could enjoy a high level of material affluence. And indeed as if to prove that very point,many "asylum seekers" after have gained their meal tickets in Oz have returned to the Middle East to fight for fundamentalist causes.

Hi Robert,
Re << I might have missed but have you referenced that analysis?>>
It was from a letter/comment at the bottom of the article.
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 8:19:22 AM
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Muslims are not the problem, it's the religion they follow that's the problem as among other things, it harbors violence and hatred to others and, as long as we are a peace loving nation, which we are, that type of religion has no place here.

Of cause, because of the mindless stupidity of successive governments, in allowing this religion to be practiced here in the first place, despite the many warning signs over the years, riding our nation of this will be all but impossible and if this lattest imiage of a small so called Australian child holding a severed head aloft is not sufficient evidence to warrant action, what is!
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 8:43:34 AM
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