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The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

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Yikes, Foxy strikes with her false analogies.

Foxy,

Isn't that quote,

<"The term 'Moderate Islam' is ugly and offensive. There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam," according to Turkish PM>

contrary to your dogmatism, viz., one of variation?

Does your dogmatism now declare emphatically (as usual) that there are no 'moderate' Muslims, or what? Get Googling..
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 17 August 2014 2:52:51 PM
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otb,

I'm afraid I don't understand to what you're
referring in your previous post. The quote
you've given is not one I cited.

And which analogies of mine are you referring to
that you think are false?

Kindly explain.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 August 2014 3:08:44 PM
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cont'd ...

otb,

why do you keep referring to MY "dogmatism?"

You consistently use unreasonable generalisations
about posters on this forum. You make all sorts of
assumptions and attach labels to people you don't
know. You don't read what people are actually
saying but accuse them of things they didn't
actually say. You argue on an emotional level rather
than a mature intelligent one. You are pig-headed,
consistently abusive, illogical, - sounds -
like "dogmatic" to me. And you regularly accuse posters
of "political correctness."

"If it's political how the fook can it be correct?"
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 17 August 2014 3:25:13 PM
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Sheikh Ahmad Adwan, who introduces himself as a Muslim scholar who lives in Jordan, said on his personal Facebook page that there is no such thing as “Palestine” in the Koran. Allah has assigned the Holy Land to the Children of Israel until the Day of Judgment (Koran, Sura 5 – “The Sura of the Table”, Verse 21), and “We made the Children of Israel the inheritors (of the land)” (Koran, Sura 26 – “The Sura of the Poets”, Verse 59).
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“I say to those who distort their Lord’s book, the Koran: From where did you bring the name Palestine, you liars, you accursed, when Allah has already named it “The Holy Land” and bequeathed it to the Children of Israel until the Day of Judgment. There is no such thing as ‘Palestine’ in the Koran. Your demand for the Land of Israel is a falsehood and it constitutes an attack on the Koran, on the Jews and their land. Therefore you won’t succeed, and Allah will fail you and humiliate you, because Allah is the one who will protect them (i.e. the Jews).”
The sheikh added: “The Palestinians are the killers of children, the elderly and women. They attack the Jews and then they use those (children, the elderly and women) as human shields and hide behind them, without mercy for their children as if they weren’t their own children, in order to tell the public opinion that the Jews intended to kill them. This is exactly what I saw with my own two eyes in the 70’s, when they attacked the Jordanian army, which sheltered and protected them. Instead of thanking it (the Jordanian army), they brought their children forward to (face) the Jordanian army, in order to make the world believe that the army kills their children. This is their habit and custom, their viciousness, their having hearts of stones towards their children, and their lying to public opinion, in order to get its support.” [Continued]
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 17 August 2014 3:30:59 PM
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It is worth mentioning, that the above mentioned sheikh visited Israel and met Jewish religious scholars. The “Israel in Arabic” site conducted an interview with him, in which he said that the reason for his openness towards the Jewish people “comes from my acknowledgment of their sovereignty on their land and my belief in the Koran, which told us and emphasized this in many places, like His (Allah’s) saying ”Oh People (i.e the Children of Israel), enter the Holy Land which Allah has assigned unto you” (Koran, Sura 5 – “The Sura of the Table”, Verse 21), and His saying “We made the Children of Israel the inheritors (of the land)” (Koran, Sura 26 – “The Sura of the Poets”, Verse 59) and many other verses.
He (Adwan) added: “(The Jews) are peaceful people who love peace, who are not hostile and are not aggressors, but if they are attacked, they defend themselves while causing as little damage to the attackers as possible. It is an honor for them that Allah has chosen them over the worlds – meaning over the people and the Jinns until the Day of Judgment. I made the reasons for Allah’s choice clear in my books and pamphlets. When Allah chose them, He didn’t do so out of politeness, and He wasn’t unjust other peoples, it is just that they (the Jews) deserved this.”
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 17 August 2014 3:31:46 PM
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Foxy,

<<If you want to exclude people like Iftikar from this country because he's a Muslim >>
I don’t think I actually said that –that was your inference . My point was more that progressive policies like MC (but not limited to MC) nurture and encourage Iftikars.

<<you may also be doing this country a great disservice. You may also be excluding people like Dr Munjed Al Muderis - who ran from war-torn Iraq>>

A thorough cost analysis which included how much was spent time and money-wise pandering to some of our intakes special needs – including such groups as Dr Sallis and her increasingly ghettoised young Arabs (her words) and their propensity to fund or follow jihad (my words) –and the opportunities lost in not directing that time or money into growing our own might find we have overlooked hundreds of unknown local Dr Munjed Al Muderis’

<<anything else about me. All you're doing is making assumptions about someone >>
I am told that you can judge what a fox has been ingesting from its droppings. Looking at the links you regularly drop on the threads one gets a pretty good idea of your limited diet

PS I will point out your ignorance of the meaning of jihad on that other thread when the ridiculous posting limits allow me to post again --not that it will make a dint on your mindset!
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 17 August 2014 3:42:18 PM
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