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The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?
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Posted by individual, Saturday, 16 August 2014 5:44:58 PM
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One is based in human care for people the other in human hatred.
Josephus, I wonder what would happen if Israel turned around & offered Palestinians a fair bit of money & security if they dobbed-in Hamas people & handed them to Israel ? That should stop the bombings in no time at all ? Posted by individual, Saturday, 16 August 2014 5:51:21 PM
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Dear Josephus,
The Israeli doctors you see helping wounded Palestinian children in Gaza must find it extremely stressful in the knoweldge that the injuries of these children were caused by their fellow countrymen. And yes, it is a humanitarian thing to do. But it would be even more humanitarian if the bombing of schools would stop. Neither side has a monopoly on suffering, but only one party has the power to end the occupation and to recognise that Israel and Palestine are historically destined to share the same homeland. As for what religion were nations that committed atrocities over the ages? Wars have produced tens of millions of victims. Some as combatants, some as civilian casualties, others victims of genocide planned by the warring powers. There were also, of course numerous courageous men and women who refused to participate in the subjugation and destruction of the targeted groups and individuals. Villians come in a variety of religions They're all members of nations caught in merciless war. No faith, no nationality, no race is completely free of evil people, extremists, fanatics, cowards, or collaborators. No group is spared from killers and traitors in their midst. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 16 August 2014 6:40:34 PM
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mikk,
Now just what Christian book has those horror stories in it? Where did Christ preach murder, rapine, treachery etc? Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 16 August 2014 8:36:05 PM
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"The term 'Moderate Islam' is ugly and offensive. There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam," according to Turkish PM.
Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling. These are the reasons why majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Only less than 5% attend Muslim schools and more than 95% keep on attending state and church schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers. British schooling and the British society is the home of institutional racism. The result is that Muslim children are unable to develop self-confidence and self-esteem, therefore, majority of them leaves schools with low grades. Racism is deeply rooted in British society. British schools are not doing enough to tackle racism and promote race relations. Many teachers are unaware of racist attitudes amongst pupils. Schools have a responsibility not only to deal with racist incidents but also to prepare pupils for life in a multicultural and multiracial society. At least one racist incident is reported daily in Bolton schools, according to stats obtained from Bolton Council by Manchurian Matters. Bolton Council of Mosques Manager, Ibrahim Kala, said the data is only the “tip of the iceberg” and that Islamophobia makes up a large portion of the reported incidents. Stats obtained through the Freedom of Information request show 2,397 cases of racism in Bolton schools in the years from 2004 to 2013, meaning on average there are 1.26 racist incidents occur daily – and these are only the ones being reported. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. IA http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk Posted by Iftikhar, Sunday, 17 August 2014 2:49:39 AM
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@Foxy,
<<but only one party has the power to end the occupation and to recognise that Israel and Palestine are historically destined to share the same homeland.>> Only one party eh! No doubt written by someone living in the comfort and security of suburban Oz. Having recently "debated" Palestinian advocates on another thread. The one sure thing that I took away from that debate was that I wouldn't want to live in close proximity to people like that. Now I will allow that I met only a small sample but if they were at all representative-- I wouldn't want to be sharing any homeland with them. Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 17 August 2014 6:54:30 AM
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I wonder if they'd have been better off not having a religion ?