ConservativeHippie,

You are right about Mikk - he needs help. He sounds like a Dawkins extremist.

Josephus,

Now that's an original insight into the Koran if ever I saw one, that "the Muslims must become Christian". Hilarious.

That was a great lead up. I wonder if there is anything about the 2 year old Jesus and the clay bird in any bibles.

Just thinking more about the question, The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

Who better to ask than the Muslims themselves, because I have no doubt they have an agenda that involves taking over wherever they can and, once the numbers are achieved, I doubt even they would say there s such a thing because i woukd suggest that to their leaders, their take on it would be, either you belong to the cause, or you don't.

So, in our typical care free reactive attitudes, let's just sit back, do nothing an wait for that day to arrive.

Of cause we could be pro active and take note of what has happened in other European countries when these types get numbers and actually do something about it, but then we wouldn't be your typical Aussies would we.

What a joke our leaders are. What a soft target we are.

Foxy>> Dr Munjed Al Muderis - who ran from war-torn Iraq
and came to this country as an asylum-seeker -
today he's a miracle worker.<<

Foxy my dear, quoting outstanding humanitarian deeds does not qualify the same Muslim person in an environment where the Quran sets the scales of justice. We look towards scholastic eminence as a yardstick to humanity................but when we examine “Hitler’s Einsatzgroups,” whose mobile killing teams murdered well over a million men women and children because of ideology, we find the hands on perpetrators were butchers bakers and candlestick makers........while their group commanders were tertiary educated doctors and lawyers.....in fact one group commander named Dr Otto Rausch was referred to as Dr Dr Rausch because of his multiple doctorates.

Foxy we are not playing the man....we are playing the team.

Josephus................great link .......thanks.....it harkens to my one and only Qran quote.

>>Those who believe and those who are
Jewish and the Christian and the Sabians,
any who believe in Allah and the last day
and work righteously; shall have their reward
with their Lord: on them shall be no fear.
Quran 2:62 <<

Islam as practiced and taught needs reformation.

Dear SOG,

Dr Muderis was told by Saddam Hussein to chop off the
ears of prisoners. He refused and fled the country.
In my books that qualifies him as a humanitarian and
man of principle. And there are many Muslims like him -
who have come to this country - who worked hard, who
studied and achieved through their own resources and
now are contributing to our society. As for what Islam
teaches - you're talking about something that you
know little about - and are buying into the media hype.

BTW: - I watched the "Insiders" on Sunday morning.
Did you know that the extremist - who took his young
son to Syria (holding that decapitated head) was a total
nut-job he had serious mental problems here in Australia,
he suffered from schizoprenia, amd needed medical care.
Yet people are blaming all Muslims for this lunatic's
behaviour?

We need more metacognition, critical thinking, skepticism
to divest ourselves of our biases and ideologies - in favour
of logic and evidence.

'We need more metacognition, critical thinking, skepticism
to divest ourselves of our biases and ideologies - in favour
of logic and evidence. '

Of Foxy if only you 'progressives ' would take off your blinkers and apply your own advice. The blatant disregard for evidence re Islam is staggering.