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MH17 looking suspicious on so many levels
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Posted by ConservativeHippie, Monday, 21 July 2014 3:38:38 PM
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They always refer to 'Rebels'. Are they russian rebels or ukrainian rebels ? My gut feeling is that it possibly will knock Putin off his perch.
Posted by individual, Monday, 21 July 2014 6:20:08 PM
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"I'm really surprised that after three days no one has ventured a comment on MH17."
It's not a particularly significant event for anyone not directly involved, I can tell you what will come of this incident, absolutely nothing. I'm old enough to remember KAL 007, Iran Air 655 and KAL 902, unfortunately these incidents happen from time to time and it's sad that people lose loved ones but they don't really have any impact in the geopolitical sense,there's nothing the E.U or U.S can do about it anyway, As for the media reports...well, nobody with a brain in their heads takes anything the mainstream media outlets release seriously, when they aren't cutting and pasting from foreign wire services or the U.S state department website they get their information from Twitter, Facebook and the government. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 21 July 2014 8:06:08 PM
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ITS YOUR..TYPICAL BAIT AND SWITCH
a black flag..rather than..a red flag [its definitly..no black swan-event] MH17..Smoking Guns Emerge!..Kiev Did It! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFlGLqiDogA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFlGLqiDogA Amazingly,..the smoking gun was provided..by Kiev themselves in the latest show that these Nazi’s..in the Ukraine and those helping them here in America..and at the UN aren’t the brightest bulbs in the room. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=48 In the 1st video,..PressResetEarth gives us a complete compilation of all the evidence..that has emerged,..some of it totally fabricated, that help expose this now obvious WW3 false flag;..in the 2nd, Dahboo, fresh off of his appearance in a Washington Post story (Before It’s News is ‘honored’ to have been called ‘unabashedly unhinged’ in the same story!), breaks down how we can tell beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was Kiev who set up this failed false flag. Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/boom-mh17-smoking-guns-emerge-kiev-did-it-complete-compilation-of-all-the-evidence-as-mh17-false-flag-falls-apart/#7bpFMGMlMDEJqj4s.99 Complete Compilation Of All The Evidence..As MH17 False Flag Falls Apart! http://investmentwatchblog.com/boom-mh17-smoking-guns-emerge-kiev-did-it-complete-compilation-of-all-the-evidence-as-mh17-false-flag-falls-apart/ Zionist Israel an International Pariah http://batr.org/reactionary/072114.html Gaza has become a slaughter zone http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea1_1405874581 for the eradication of Palestinians with the most advanced military technology that Israel posses. In comparison the blaming of Hamas for this latest barrage of rockets, fails to recognize any proposition in the mutual savagery. Depending on one’s view just who is the unlawful belligerent, sympathy and condemnation follows. This eternal struggle will never end peacefully. Debating international law,..dissecting historic claims,..strategizing military options,..analyzing diplomatic intentions,..and especially honoring superior doctrine among conflicting religious beliefs..WITH SECULAR AIMS..is a formula that offers no solutions. Yet, ..Israel is wedded.to an expansionist political objective. http://investmentwatchblog.com/crimes-against-humanity-with-500-palestinians-already-dead-idf-shells-another-hospital-5-more-dead-dozens-hurt/.. Boom! Extending settlements/prevent..any permanent settlement agreement. FBI pushed Muslims to plot terrorist attacks: rights report http://patriotrising.com/2014/07/21/fbi-pushed-muslims-plot-terrorist-attacks-rights-report/ The FBI encouraged..and sometimes even paid Muslims to commit terrorist acts during numerous sting operations after the 9/11 attacks, a human rights group said in a report published Monday. http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/fbi-entrapment-created-illusion-terrorist-plots-report/ US networks remove reporters critical of Israeli attack on Gaza http://rinf.com/alt-news/media-news/us-networks-remove-reporters-critical-israeli-attack-gaza/ On two consecutive days this week,..journalists reporting from the Gaza war zone who evinced..empathy for the Palestinians and less than unquestioning support for Israel were removed by television network executives. http://www.intellihub.com/evolution-u-s-war-propaganda/ YOUR/delusions=our-Nightmare* http://rss.infowars.com/20140721_Mon_Alex.mp3 Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 7:14:40 AM
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No one has wanted to comment yet, too soon perhaps and
"There goes I but for the Grace of God" but to brave a comment: It is a pretty simple situation I believe. First Putin would not have had prior knowledge. There are according to one report 400 aircraft a day using that airway. There may have been perhaps 10 or 20 targets on the screen. Some ill trained, probably Russian, soldier clicked on a very high target. The system probably displayed the altitude, speed and direction of the target. Perhaps he did not have his glasses on. A Singapore Airline aircraft either behind MH17 or going the opposite way was close and could have been another target on the screen. These suppositions of mine are just that but are more likely than all the conspiracy theories that float around. Malaysian airlines was just in the wrong place at the same time. It was bad luck, but who wants to fly with an unlucky airline ? Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 9:30:24 AM
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Chain of command, ConservativeHippy:
Who authorised 'pressing the button' ? Which KGB officer authorised sending the missiles inside rebel-held territory, knowing they could be used ? Who is his KGB senior officer ? Who is HIS KGB senior officer ? If this goes all the way up to the Russian War Minister (I won't dignify him by calling him a 'defence' minister), then presumably he acted in accordance with Putin's general instructions. So the buck stops with Putin ? If so, konyets Putina Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 9:56:27 AM
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Well here's my take - Friday morning within hours of the story breaking the media was saw Tweets from a Russian military adviser boasting about shooting down the plane (believed a Ukrainian jet). We heard audio recordings between the rebels that eventually lead to the recognition a serious mistake had been made; even an insulting comment from one commander suggesting it was the plane's fault for flying overhead. Shortly later, the boastful tweet was removed. I honestly expected Putin would order the tweeting commander to hand himself in, and this would get resolved without potentially escalating into WWIII. Now I'm not so sure.
In my mind there is no question who shot down MH17. But can the world honestly say it was Putin? I think that's a stretch but Putin is not helping the cause. It also seems to me the media is in cahoots with the West's agenda to turn this into a 'stick it to Putin' opportunity. The media across all channels is fairly consistent but in some ways its emphasising the negative and avoiding much comment where there has been cooperation.
I say the above in the context of the rebels "desecrating the site", "tampering with evidence"; "being disrespectful to the dead", "piling the dead on the roadside in black plastic bags" ; taking the bodies away in trucks in black plastic bags" "putting the bodies on a train, possibly bound for Moscow".
No mention of what the outrage would be if the rebels left the bodies in the field where they fell, awaiting the arrival an investigation team from overseas. If the rebels are being so uncooperative why are they allowing journalist to video them collecting the bodies, carrying the black box, showing the refrigerated train cars, and stating they will allow a full investigation? Why hasn't there been more said about the agreement and assurances Putin gave Merkle?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending anyone. I am however questioning some of the one-sided media reports we are receiving.