Oh dear, Ludwig. Oh dear.

>>I consider people like this, who are simply incapable of entertaining a debate without constant personal abuse... to be nothing short of the absolute scum of society.<<

Do you perhaps have a mirror close by?

>>the slag that has overrun this thread<<

>>the patheric little primary-school-level-intellect lowlife band<<

>>the little lowlife band of three have heaped a great mountain of their excrement upon me, which they have pulled out of their stinky little backsides, and which is completely independent of their brains (unless their brains are up their bums, which seems like a distinct possibility)<<

>>extremist lowlife elements<<

>>rabid Ludwig-bashing lapdogs<<

And all in the same post, too!

That must be something of a record also, don't you think?

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Ludwig,
For me to say << Harris is not the worse case of pedophilia ever uncovered, all would agree.>> That is obvious, for example it did not lead to the death of any of the complainants, which is a good thing.
Like the charge of murder in some cases the penalty will be 10 years jail, in others it will be life. But even thought the degree is different the crime is the same, both murder. With, Harris again I stress its degree, but still a charge of pedophilia. "Harris is a pedophile." that is my position.

You put forward that at least some of his actions were something other, like "playful fun", I do not accept that.
I take it all the charges were proven, I accept that.
The penalty imposed fitted the crime. I accept that.
The community attitude to pedophilia sits well with me, and the outcome here was appropriate based on my personal attitude and my perception of the general community attitude to the crime. I accept the court system got it right this time.

You may have a different attitude to the crime and Harris, and therefore could perceive Harris was treated harshly. If that is the case, I do not agree.

The only record, Ludwig, is in the degree of hypocrisy and childish foot stamping and name calling you displayed in your previous post...I reckon a 7 year-old could demonstrate more sophistication than the embarrassing load of pre-school twaddle you've unloaded towards fellow posters - merely because they reject your line of reasoning.

(Unfortunately, although this is along thread, there was a nasty whackamozzie thread sometime back which collected over 600 posts...so you dipped out there I'm afraid.)

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Of course Rolf was in it for a bit of fun, but what was a bit of fun for Rolf was a criminal act.

Funny that.