Graham,

I stand corrected. Sorry, I let my ire get the better of my judgement.

Come on folks, lets move on.

As for the severity of the offences, the judge determined it was a 5.9 on the nasty scale, not a 10, not a 1, but a 5 years 9 months. I can only take it that the judge was correct in determining the sentence.

As for saying "nothing more than playful behaviour, if at times a little worrying for some young women." In another time, and in another place that may well have been true, its certainly not the case in our time, and in our society. To argue differently is a persons right to do so, but I think that line of argument puts that person well out of step with the prevailing social attitudes on the subject. Its not a political issue, its a social issue. I note that its a few of us who are deemed the "lefties" on OLO, who have been carrying the argument for the correctness of the status quo, interesting.
Graham you said "I'm not sure that I should have let this thread through" Even though I found the opening post was something I disagreed with I don't think it, or the subject itself should be censored or taboo.

Not so much the discussion of the issue, but the way it would be discussed was what I was referring to Paul. You'll see that we've published a couple of articles on the issue, so I'm not averse to it being discussed.

"I note that its a few of us who are deemed the "lefties" on OLO, who have been carrying the argument for the correctness of the status quo"

Mostly the case for this small sample and I may be more to the left than some regular OLO posters but I doubt I'm often deemed a "leftie". I hope this isn't a left/right issue, my own perception is that most on the right would be very intollerant of children being interfered with sexually as are most on the left.

I've not quite worked out what the demographic divide is that has some considering it a bit of low level or harmless fun, I doubt very much that political orientation has anything to do with it.

R0bert

Lol!, RObert...you're one of OLO's most level-headed posters.

It seems, resting on that, that you are being defined as a "leftie".

What does that tell us about lefties?

careful there dckey bird
backwarrs john [the nuber 1 TO 3 DUDE]
is taegeting anything anyone that agrees with ludwig

two pros with-him.plus you and me//thats 4plus/mor
with the two deletions/wgho somehow werrnt up*to..321's/form

I IM/forced to chose/and i reject the oppertuinity to/judge\+live in hell..like..those who juged others..[wrong]..THEM GODLESS WHO CALL themselves christian right yel/ing at homos abortionists/anybody but your pals

please note how families supPPort these peoPle[its/some-how;diferent;family/mates[ones-you/adore

if their evil/let god judge them
but/harras harras

there is already/too many good[but highly judmenta'souls in hell]
once they realise they judged too harsh/that\then our acts will be measured by what we now judged harras to have done/a mere press report/or a WORD FROM A corrupted judiciary..[who knows for sure]?\/.there is much worse being done by the high and mighty//than REVEALED IN THIS TOPIC

ITS NOT A GAME
YOU WANT DeyMONS/KEEP THINING RE THE TOPIC

IM SO OVER IT
I JUST NEDED TO REVEAL THE GAME JOHN BACKWARDS IS PLAYING
two posts delet2d]..[at-least]2 ids silenced!..[just this thread/hes has a modus opperandi/and many ids

[how dare then..you\think differently
DONT SAY WHAT YOU FEEL/SAY WHAT YA KNOW
GETS A MATE ONSIDE[FORM ALLIANCES],,FIRSt LAw in trolling..]?

the worst thing its much like gay bashing
they do cause they like ding the bashing/or talking on their obsessions.

the usual thing is make a joke
see how they ract/its great to be innocent/but no excuse for inorance

if every rpeist got jails the jails would e full

think about that/harras is in jai
keeping worse criminas in//because hes the egsmple

3 decades ago/the sentancing judge said i have to jai firsat ofence[lettin a plant grow]..with jil ecause the media is intrSTED

then jails were empty/no sentnce supended[ie not even a FINE]
no..go do the time/caUSE THE PRES NEEDS A DISTRACTION FROM ARMOGEDDON IN UKRANE[and it worked/the wasted posts could have ended wars

its pathetic
securty agencies dont rule us/nor lord it over us by fear
i..look up half the letters are missing/so be it/im over it