I agree with GrahamY, Foxy and Poirot. Several people here including Ludwig should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for the way they've attempted to diminish and make excuses for acts of pedophilia.

Ludwig has an insensitive, black and white view thoroughly lacking in insight, showing utter disregard for pedophilia victims, and worst of all he just doesn't care about that.

When a grown man sexually interferes with a little child the following things apply, [a]the child is NEVER at fault, no matter what [b] the pedophile is ALWAYS at fault, no matter what.

Ludwig and his several supporters, there's just one or two them, are a disgrace and should hang their heads in shame. Our innocent little children deserve better than these people.

Let's protect our children from pedophilia, not blame them.

Thanks for your support in previous posts OUG. You are indeed saying some interesting things. By and large, I agree with your perspective.

<< When it comes to the sexual abuse of children there is only a hardline view that has to be taken. Nothing excuses this behaviour. Nothing! And nobody - no matter how famous - is above the law. And that is the way it should be. >>

Foxy, there are degrees of severity.

We must absolutely NOT condemn and destroy someone who has done things at the minor end of the spectrum to just the same extent as we would for things at the other end of the spectrum.

Foxy,
I believe that you are a little naive when you say that no one is above the law, especially in this country.
There are plenty of examples of unchecked illegal activity.
Right now the Scott Volkers case is re surfacing.
A classic case of someone above the law although that may be about to change.

The next person to post an explicit comment on this thread will be suspended. No exceptions or special pleading. I've just deleted two and I don't intend to spend my time moderating comments that intelligent adults should know are too OTT for an open forum.

I saw that horrible post from a Ludwig supporter and I'm so glad it was deleted. As I said earlier, I would not let Ludwig, or that person as well, if I knew who they were in real life, anywhere near my children. That person and Ludwig are falsely asserting there's such thing as a 'minor' end of the spectrum of pedophilia. That disgraceful belief is a fallacy. ALL pedophilia acts are major, and some are more major than others. But Ludwig has shown he just doesn't care.

I deeply apologise to any pedophile victims who have read the horrid posts of Ludwig and his one or two supporters. Almost all the posters here have shown they are against the barbaric attitudes presented by these few writers.

To all victims of pedophilia who read this thread, the decent people here which is the vast majority, support you.