Foxy,

With respect, those inferences are unfair and could be construed as allegations of complicity for financial gain. I hope you meant none of that.

Sometimes there is no better explanation than the trust that an offender abused, and his/her victims are the people close to him/her as well as the more obvious, direct victims who are the complainants.

I my voluntary work I have listened to the very sad stories of a number of people. The simple fact is that criminals (and Harris is one) are very manipulative people who can be adept at leading double lives. I could relate the story of a lovely old fellow I visit whose wife, a professional, led (and continues to lead!) not two but three parallel lives and managed to strip the family assets. She even had a house where she lived operated from when not at the family home (which she returned to at night) and then another.. He found out some of it through accident, but the available family finances are so 'shot' and controlled by her that he cannot achieve any separation.

That was a long story and to some unbelievable, but it is fact and anyone in community work could tell many.

The court arrived at the view that Rolf Harris was highly manipulative and unrepentant. His wife and daughter may never have known anything and you can be sure from the court evidence that Harris made very few slip-ups. We should believe the court. There is no sharing of blame, he did it all himself. He is a very nasty s.o.b to put everyone through the long legal processes and court appearances. We should be reminded too, that behaviour generalises.

The penalty is soft for the lives ruined by him.

Poirot,
Please stop making things up here, I did not riducle your experience, far from it. Trying to put things into perspective is not ridicule in any thesaurus.
Come to think of it when some high profile Labor people were charged with worse, the media was far less like the bloodhounds onto Rolf Harris. Any particular reason ? What about that Qld. Labor leader Keith Wright ? The hounding wasn't very long at all there was it ? Then there was that insufferable fat slob from the NT who topped himself. Not much hounding there either. I wonder how many more would surface after a little digging ?
Why not ? Because they din't fit the profile of the feminist cosshair on account of being conservative in politics.

Dear OTB,

Thank You for pulling me up on what I wrote.

Re-reading that post of mine I can now see
that I should have
phrased things differently and made it clearer.

I did not mean to cast any blame on the wife
and daughter.

And of course - You're absolutely right - clever
people can manipulate others - and can lead double-lives
very successfully as history teaches us.

Foxy,

I didn't imagine you were blame shifting.

Referring to the story I related about the elderly chap, it is difficult to understand how he didn't spot the duplicity. However that is in hindsight and many who trust their spouse to manage the finances would not have fared any better. He is dealing with a dangerous woman.

Rolf Harris' spouse and daughter were and are dealing with a dangerous man. He is shameless and unrepentant. I would be very surprised indeed if his behaviour doesn't generalise. Deceit goes hand in hand with a range of other nasty behaviours, blackmail, coercion and bullying being possible examples. Is he a ruthless, manipulative, puppeteer? Probably.

Dear OTB,

Thank You for that.

Food for thought.

individual,

You are so full of it.....

What do we make of this?

"[Poirot] Btw, did you end up getting your stepfather locked up or wasn't he famous enough ?"

I'll let the rest of the posters on this thread draw their own conclusion on that.

You have no cred here whatsoever...having spent the first part of this thread blaming his victims for Harris's predation.