Excellent posts R0bert and Banjo. Very thought-provoking stuff.

Whether children report sexual assault or not seems to depend a lot on the prevailing adult attitudes and the relationship between parents and the aggressor.

In our case at school most of us apparently told our parents and in my case, at least, after some initial doubt my father, by some astute questioning, believed me.
He told me many years later that he raised the matter with some of the other fathers, compared notes, and the teacher voluntarily left both the school and the organization.

We all got on with life and generally forgot about it, my first conscious remembering of the incidents was at a class reunion about 20 years later when we had a bit of a chuckle about it.

Is Mise,

"Whether children report sexual assault or not seems to depend a lot on the prevailing adult attitudes and the relationship between parents and the aggressor."

True.

In my case I had been taken in by this family after my father had gone off on one his tangents and abandoned me for that period.

The perpetrator was the step-father of the other kids in the house. I wish I had spoken up, even to the other kids, but I was mortally ashamed of what had happened (and like some of Rolf's actions, it happened when other people were around)...anyway I felt isolated in my predicament - and was mightily relieved when some short time later this man left.

(I suspect he may have done even worse to his step-daughter...but again, nothing was ever said.)

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Ludwig,

"Who would ever have thought that making an image included simply viewing an image on your computer?

Obviously without that explanation, everyone would have thought that Rolf had been right into some really hard-core child porn activity, rather than just viewing images (which incidentally are absolutely borderline at being interpreted as child porn)."

I think you're splitting hairs here...viewing them, but not downloading them, printing them...whatever. It fits in with his predilection for young pubescent girls. In any case, those charges are not going to be pursued.

Also, the UK Attorney General's Office tweeted last night that Rolf Harris's sentence has been referred to them under the unduly lenient sentences scheme.

For my part, I think there is little to be gained from increasing his sentence. Justice has been served for his victims. He'll endure jail time and his reputation is in tatters now the truth of his actions has been revealed.

Ludwig>> It seems that the worst of it was a bit of groping, which really amounts to somewhat risqué activity, and nothing worse than that.<<

Luddy for me the form or extent of sexual predation does not enter into it. It is all about the vulnerability of the “selected” victim.

Luddy Harris’s moral crime is in the act of choosing a victim that is physically psychologically and in terms of credibility substantially less powerful than him, Age of consent laws are in place to protect children from cowards like Harris.

To choose a child or adolescent as your victim deserves jail time for just the predatory behaviour. In sheer moral terms you would have to have more respect for a bank robber than Harris.

>> Comparing him to the likes of pedophile priests or Jimmy Savile is like comparing a flea to a walrus.<<

There are no degrees in the crime of unlawful under age carnal knowledge. Five years on top is not enough for the number of convictions, five years inside would fit my moral scale better.

Luddy whatever Harris got busted for you can be assured that he and Saville shared their experiences and as constant child predators got up to worse. Primarily because an overt libido coupled with a psychological penchant for children and that is a sexually driven power trip that they don’t grow out of...they grow into it.

So I don't agree with your thought process Luddy, its morally unbalanced.

I can't help wondering about the feelings of
Mr Harris's wife and daughter in all of this.
How must they be feeling at this time?

Did they know anything or suspect
anything about their husband and father over all
these years? Surely there must have been tell-tale
signs that something was wrong with his behaviour.
Especially in the case of the daughter's best-friend
being molested while they were on holidays together
and the daughter sleeping in the next bed.

What possible explanation could be made for turning
a blind eye to all this?

I read somewhere that Mr Harris's daughter is financially
dependent on her father (he gives her a monthly alowance).
In 2012 Bindi wrote to her father to ask if she was the
sole inheritor of his 11 million pound estate.

I suppose money could be a good motivator for someone's silence.
Money, fame, love - a combination of all three perhaps?
- who knows? But now that things are out in the open -
and Mr Harris's reputation has taken such a battering -
where does that leave his wife and daughter?

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and even/the greater/lenGTHS/WE OURSELF GO TO

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and loved/it
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as im so over the lot/of it/yet slave to the porn
so many faces/looking with eye contact/unashamed/like eve

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