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Love of country

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This is timely: tonight on Insight SBS 8.30pm.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/05/13/cross-cultural-dating-why-are-some-people-only-attracted-one-ethnicity
Posted by Cossomby, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 6:53:47 PM
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Paul, Cossomby, Davidf, you might find this interesting, I watch so many videos and read so many articles sometimes one or two slip my mind and I neglect to include them as supporting material in my arguments.
Rabbi James Kennard discusses the challenges in keeping his people engaged with Judaism through education, he also lays out in stark terms the implications for the future when a significant proportion of Jews in a diaspora community abandon their roots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Qf3_EVC_I
Keeping and perpetuating one's heritage is important, it's fulfilling, it's a worthwhile endeavour and as the Rabbi says it's "beautiful".
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 7:13:59 PM
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Oh great Cossomby, a program all about some people's weird, sexist and dare I say it "racist" views on members of other ethnic groups.
You do realise that we're talking about some of the most chauvinistic, sexist,bigoted people in the community when we talk about interracial dating?
This prudish young woman likes "girly" men, this slob wants a Filipino wife who won't answer back and who'll fetch his pipe and slippers on command..third world gold diggers, sex tourists, hebephiles and a psychologist whose field of expertise is aging but who nonetheless peddling the same, long disproven BS about "hybrid vigour", wow this is going to be some show!
http://sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.com.au/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html
http://therightstuff.biz/2014/04/29/correcting-the-anti-racialist-qa/
Interracial dating has nothing to do with genetic fitness and it's demonstrably true that mixed race children suffer more physical, emotional and intellectual problems than those identifying as of a single race heritage. Due to ideological taboos in the scientific community there's just been no real enquiry into why this is so but this blog gives us a few hints, I can post links to the musings of sick, unhappy mixed race people all night if you'd like but this might suffice for now:
http://stuffeurasianslike.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/white-moms-love-their-children-asian-moms-hate-their-kids/
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 7:47:32 PM
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SteeleRedux, did I say no Black or other minorities ever performed on Eurovision?

If they're citizens of those countries, then they can be contestants.

I note you can find only 3 examples from the show's entire history.

Now find me 3 persons not singing in English or their national language.
If minorities are just as representative of their nations, why no Swedish contestant singing in Tagalog or a French one singing in Arabic?

Paul1405 "the Europeans should have been repulsed by the Polynesians and vise-versa."

Recognition of difference = repulsion?

The mutineers were on an island far from home, what other choice did they have? Abstinence? Turn gay?

Cossomby "Asian and middle eastern population movement to Europe is just chickens coming home to roost."

The old two-wrongs-make-a-right morality, eh?

Britain, France, Spain, etc. created those "chickens", Australia didn't.

*Australians* didn't invade and colonise India, the Americas, or the Middle East.

Mainland China, the *largest* source of immigrants, was never conquered by any European empire.
So where's the Chinese "chickens"?

"Which of the two men is the "Most Australian"?"

The one with British ancestry.
He's the one living in a culture/people *derived* from his ancestry.

The Chinese man is mimicking, adopting, the ways of aliens.
He has betrayed his ancestors.

Your real question should be "Which of the two *families* is most Australian".
Neither are.

You could call them "Modern Semi-Westerners" or some other label, but not "Australian".

People in most Western countries engage in much the same cultural/social phenomena.

But there are still "Dutch" people and "Swedish" families.
And these are defined by common *ancestry*, not adopted or mimicked factors.
Posted by Shockadelic, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 8:57:40 PM
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Jay, I didn't condone the program, the people in it or their views. I hadn't seen it so I couldn't make any judgement. I just said it was timely given this thread.

And from the time of your post you hadn't seen it either when you posted your judgemental comment.

Another article, also noted neutrally, last week's New Scientist:'World Without God. What if everyone stopped believing tomorrow?'
Posted by Cossomby, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:15:01 PM
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"The Chinese man is mimicking, adopting, the ways of aliens. He has betrayed his ancestors."

So, shockadelic, the Aborigines we took over from and one way and another forced to adopt European ways and to assimilate, are also mimicking, adopting the ways of aliens, and have betrayed their ancestors.

This would mean that evangelical Christianity, from the Conquistadors in South America, to the missionaries in Australia, has comprehensively facilitated the betrayal of ancestors on a global scale. Any African, Asian, Oceanic or American Indian who adopted Christianity was mimicking, adopting the ways of aliens and betraying their ancestors.

And logically, Europeans also mimicked, adopted the ways of aliens, and betrayed their ancestors when they adopted Christianity from the Middle East. (Still we managed to keep Yulefest (renamed Christmas) and Easter - the spring festival)
Posted by Cossomby, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:31:58 PM
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