Paul,
Nobody relies on 80 year old Ahnenerbe research, we don't have to because we have studies done over the last ten years by reliable institutes all over the world, I merely pointed out that folklore and conventional wisdom has always told us that we Europeans are descended from one group of people and it's been proven right. The Nazis were trying to reconcile folklore with 20th century science, I notice you mock them but don't laugh at the Israelis trying to reconcile science and the old testament or the Han Chinese trying to do the same with their culture.
Sucks to have your worldview collapse before your eyes I suppose since both science and folklore come down on the side of nationalism, but that's the way the cookie crumbles, as John Maynard Keynes reportedly wrote : "When my information changes, I alter my conclusions". What's your conclusion Paul?

Jay, I'm not going to "join in slinging the insults" You say "Race is real and it matters". If race was the sole determinate in selecting a mate then there would be no inter-breeding between the races. I would say there is a bias in selecting a mate, that bias is for selecting someone of the same race, as people will tend to get along and have more in common with someone of the same race than not. However given all things being equal, other than being of the same race, there is a good chance that a person of one race will take up with a person of another race.
Here is something of interest about unusual circumstance and intermingling of races.
Mutiny on the Bounty and Pitcairn Islanders.
http://library.puc.edu/pitcairn/pitcairn/history.shtml

I hold that although the mutineers (European) and indigenous (Polynesian) were of two different races there was enough in common for the two groups to intermingle. If race was the sole determining factor then the Europeans should have been repulsed by the Polynesians and vise-versa. Not so, just the opposite, since there was virtually no constraints there was a ready acceptance of each other. Jay please explain that one.

A friend of mine, Australian, fell in love with a Greek girl many years ago, and she with him. The pressure on her from the Greek parents and family was so intense it destroyed their relationship. That may explain why Europeans didn't intermarry. As a Greek fella said to me once, not only am i expected to marry a 'good' Greek girl, but a 'good' Greek girl from the right village.

Paul,
What's your point mate?
Men away from hearth and home often take "campaign wives" and sire children, those children have always suffered stigma and often retribution, even in European societies.
Example:
Anni-frid Lyngstad isn't Swedish by birth, her father was a German soldier and her mother Norwegian, they fled to Sweden to escape the "collaborator" stigma. In Norway after the end of the war the resistance rounded up all the little three and four year old "war babies" and paraded them through the streets where they were jeered, spat upon and pelted with garbage.

By the way, how are those mixed race Pitcairners faring on socio-ecomic indices as compared to Whites and Polynesians? Their society has all but collapsed has it not?

Dear Jay,

Norfolk Island is mainly populated by the mixed-race descendents of the Polynesians and English sailors. I spent a week there, and they appeared to be doing fine.

http://www.norfolkisland.com.au/ tells about it. It's a great place to go. One famous descendent is Errol Flynn who was a fine physical specimen. They are a good looking people and appear quite intelligent. Possibly a bit of hybrid vigour.

"The people who emigrated to England in prehistoric and distant historic times were all closely related ....the idea that Europeans are a "mongrel" race is completely false ... we Europeans are descended from one group of people and it's been proven right."

So what on earth are we Europeans doing in Australia, where the people who lived here could argue exactly the same case? And what are we doing in the Americas etc and that few hundred years trying to run India and Africa and the Middle East ?

As soon as Europeans left the homeland and moved in on other people's homelands, and started interbreeding with other people, all bets were off. Asian and middle eastern population movement to Europe is just is chickens coming home to roost. We charge round the world announcing that our system is the best, and we're surprised that other people refuse to stay in their place - that they want to charge round the world too, and have some of what we have. Is naiveity part of the 'White' cultural tradition?

This debate is nothing new.

James Grassie 1861: The meaning of the word patriotism is zeal for one's country, but the sense is only accepted according to circumstances. When connected with the Swiss and Scotch, Tell and Wallace, the word is allowed its full weight; and when prefixed to the word Washington it has also some force. Toussaint L Overture, although a 'black fellow,' has not made it obsolete, and Sir Sydney Smith engraved it in characters of blood.

But when you arrive in the sunny islands of the south, you find that the word has changed its meaning for that which would be patriotism in Britain, is rebellion in New Zealand, notwithstanding the incredible amount of oppression that many have goaded the exasperated patriots into action, and oh ! monstrous ! monstrous! who ever dreamed of patriotism in the breast of a poor broken hearted aboriginal of Australia. His heritage may have wrung him by the iron hand of despotism, his lubra (the wife of his bosom) torn screaming from his embrace, his happy hunting grounds desolated; and the game which was his by every right, human and divine, exterminated. His race may have been doomed and devoted to extinction, and himself hunted down like a wild 'dingo' in his own primeval forests, that world of woods, which is his birthright, his heritage, and his home.

He may have suffered all, or nearly all, that man can inflict upon man; and his wrong, like the sacrificing Able's cries, may bellow from the ground with a hundred tongues and yet there is no patriotism for him. If he was to put forth his spear in defence of his rights, the pale-faced patriots of Europe would hang him on the next tree like a dog