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Love of country

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A new racial theory based on the "Betrayal of the Ancestors". This is a variation on the concept of separate development. Where the purity of race must be maintained at all cost. For the purist any racial mixing is evil, and can only lead to the total destruction of their pure race. .

Here is a YouTube put out by these racial purists. I like the note at the end "This video is promoting RACIAL AWARENESS not racism PRESERVATION not hate" Sure it is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qYRJpgAUtQ
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 6:13:15 AM
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Dear Jay,

Our heritage? One thing that is true about our heritage is that it consists of something that other people have done. It is something to be recognised but to be neither ashamed nor proud of. However, what is my heritage? Since I am a human being my heritage is whatever other human beings have done. We don’t know who first thought of the wheel or tamed fire, but they are part of my heritage.

Great mathematicians such as Euclid, Gauss, Euler, Aryabhata((476–550 CE) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryabhata he may be the greatest of all mathematicians, but since he comes from a non-western culture most people in our society have never heard of him), Cantor and others are part of my heritage. My heritage is in the great literature produced by Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Cervantes, Dante and Goethe. Since I am a product of western society I don’t know about the great literature of other societies, but that is also part of my heritage. Great scientists like Einstein, Newton and Darwin are part of my heritage.

Of course my heritage also contains dirty dogs who were talented at organising people to slaughter other people and accumulate great swathes of territory like Alexander, Julius Caesar, Genghis Kahn, Napoleon, Hitler and all those who served to create the great empires. My heritage also consists of the founders of the great religions who supplied great quantities of nonsense and set human beings who had different brands of nonsense to be at odds with one another. IMHO missionary religions are some of the great evils in my heritage. My heritage also consists of nationalist, Marxist, racist and other ideologues who also set humans at odds with each other.

My heritage also consists of doubters such as Protagoras, Diogenes, Descartes, Hume, Spinoza, Montaigne and all the others who questioned authority and wondered if what they had been told was so. That is the part of my heritage that most fascinates me.

My heritage also consists of those billions of men and women who have lived and died without being known by anyone outside of their immediate circle.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 9:51:18 AM
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david f, your heritage is exactly the same as mine! We must be related!
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 12:13:05 PM
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Paul,
Anyone who uses Tom Metzger as a reference or re-posts his cartoons is definitely Anti White, that video was most probably made by Anti Racists.
I don't use the White Genocide meme anymore precisely for that reason, it's a rhetorical tool which was intended to be used in arguments against people such as yourself, it points out a contradiction, if it's used to try and prove that an actual genocide is occurring it's useless, that's why I'm calling BS on the video, no real White Nationalist uses those words in that way.

DavidF
You're from a different ethnic group to the one I call my own and that's OK by me, heaven forbid that we all looked and thought the same way.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 3:31:17 PM
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So is the video a fake to make "White" nationalists look bad or has it been produced by a 'White' Nationalist? I don't know - but look at the company it keeps (on that website) - I don't think they are all fakes.

What it does include are two views associated with 'White' supremacy/nationalism that have been around for a very long time and crop up in many genuine white nationalism documents.

1. That interracial relationships will eliminate the 'white' race. The road signs show black + white = black. It could just as easily be thought of as = white, or = black/white. There is an interesting contradiction in the white supremacy/nationalism line: whites are superior, responsible for all the modern human advances etc. but at the same time 'whiteness' is frail and vulnerable - it can be wiped out by blackness. How come the strong 'White' genes don't overpower the black ones? [The root of this idea may be in the concept of 'contamination' - see any anthropological textbook; contamination doesn't just work black/white but also female/male].

2. That people of mixed descent are ugly, weak, degenerate. Actually the reverse is true - they exhibit hybrid vigour. Breeding with close relatives over generations concentrates genetic weaknesses. Humans have long recognised this and deliberate exogamy was common in the past (again, see basic anthropology texts). There are many illnesses today in close-related ethnic groups. Interracial exogamy provides the most radical way to avoid this and so mixed race people tend to be healthier and to be seen as more 'attractive' [This was mentioned in the SBS program.} The children of the first British arrivals in Australia were notably taller and healthier than their parents generation. Part of this was due to improved food etc., but hybrid vigour is part of the story. the migrant generation came from all over Britain (including Ireland/Scotland). Most individually were the product of generations of close breeding in small villages. In Australia they married people that they would never have met back home, who were genetically distant from them, and their children benefited.
Posted by Cossomby, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 4:46:39 PM
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Cossomby, an Anti Racist, a moron or a teenager, or all three.
Sorry I stopped watching when the Metzger cartoon appeared,that told me all I needed to know.
You're pretty much spot on with the rest of your observations but most of them apply to the U.S brand of White Nationalism, in Europe it's different, in Russia it's different again and there's no original, southern hemisphere specific school of thought as yet.
As with most things American their take on White pride is loud, obnoxious and abrasive, there are a considerable number of us who don't agree with their tactics and resent the fact of this creeping "Americanism" or "Atlanticism". To my mind wholesale adoption by non Americans of the views of David Duke, Tom Metzger,Alex Linder or any of the other U.S based pundits is no different to taking up the Obama/Democrat platform and trying to implement it in another cultural setting, it won't work and you look like a loser wannabe.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 5:52:31 PM
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