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Love of country

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This is just getting silly now, since when has Errol Flynn been a Pitcairner and not a White Tasmanian? Flynn CLAIMED to be a descendant of the mutineers to bolster his "Captain Blood" on screen persona, it wasn't true.
I was formulating a longer reply but I'll close for the evening with the thought that Anti Racists and advocates of human equality were conned by people who were playing a racialist game all along. Sorry folks, you've been had, Lewontin and Gould and all the other Jewish pseudo scientists were playing to win by the rules of their ethnic group and they lied to you, they did it strategically and without shame and for thirty five years you fell for it.
It's no slight on them, well played Jewish "equality" advocates, you did the right thing by your people in trying to protect your diaspora after the Pogroms and the Final Solution and from a racialist point of view that's to be respected and applauded.
The end justifies the means, that's something I can definitely relate to.
It's over Paul, the human race is dead, long live the human races!
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 12 May 2014 11:12:21 PM
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david f,

Thanks for that, Norfolk Island is where the Mutineers did indeed end up. To this day I do believe the name Christian is still a prominent name there, and yes lovly people and despite a "rough" start they have done remarkably well for themseleves.
Far from simply landing on the Islands and in some lustful fit of barbarism raping the Polynesian women, the European men (uneducated rough sailors) quickly established loving and lasting relationships with the Islanders, and when they moved the whole family moved.
I find in my own relationship, my partner is extremely proud of her Maori heritage and has only 2 non Maori people in her genealogy, both from the 19th century, one a Chinese man and the other an American sailor, two people she is proud to recognise as part of her ancestry. Often referring to the 'Hainamana' people who settled in the north after failing on the gold fields and not returning to China, as extremely kind to her people.

Cossomby, a couple of very nice posts.

Jay, two people, males, both 3rd or 4th generation living in Australia, one of British ancestry, and the other of Chinese ancestry. In fact in other respects very simmilar indeed. Next door neighbors, live in similar houses, around the same ages, drive similar cars, both have two kids even going to the same schools. The Fist bloke of British ancestry is married to a Philippino woman, the second to an Australian. All are great mates, socilise together, wives are great pals. The blokes are mates, about the only thing they disagree on is which footy team to support.
If you will, please answer this question. Which of the two men is the "Most Australian"? In your view.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 6:47:49 AM
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Paul.
Shockadelic and Individual have strong opinions on "Australianism" but it's not something I spend a great deal of time thinking about, at this time I'm only interested in questions of race and identity in multi-racial societies.
The theoretical "Melting Pot" obviously isn't relevant to my ethnic group, it's an aspiration of the upper middle strata in an evolving caste system in this country , the racial questions I pursue are about dynamics within the lower and bottom categories of that caste system, Whites, Men generally, people over 50, those of the Muslim faith, Aborigines, Africans etc.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 11:26:40 AM
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Dear Jay,

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001224/

Errol Flynn was born to parents Theodore Flynn, a respected biologist, and Marrelle Young, an adventurous young woman and descendant of a midshipman of HMS Bounty fame.

Errol's mother was descended from one of the midshipmen who went with the mutineers and married a Polynesian woman.

Einstein, a Jew, is possibly the greatest scientific genius. There is no reason to suspect that the Nobel prize committee is biased towards Jews, but Jews have won an inordinate amount of Nobel awards. That may be due to a culture that prizes intellectual achievement rather than the genetic complement. Nevertheless it is a fact.

Hopefully, most people will consider it most important about a person what kind of a person an individual is rather than worrying about the race of that person.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 3:52:40 PM
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David F
http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Errol_Flynn.html
"Despite Flynn's claims, the evidence indicates that he was not descended from any of the Bounty mutineers". The closest Flynn came to the real Bounty mutineers was playing one in a film.

The Nobel committee unbiased? That's such a silly statement it's hardly worth responding to, the Nobel committee is a laughingstock among all thinking people, you're nominally a Leftist, you should know that already.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 5:18:18 PM
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Jay to say; <<but it's not something I spend a great deal of time thinking about, at this time I'm only interested in questions of race and identity>>

Sounds like a side step to me. I would have though the answer was obvious. They are both Australian as each other. To say anything else would have one branded a racists. Would it not? It should not take a great deal of time thinking about it. The question once more; Which of the two men is the "Most Australian"?

So...your call.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 6:20:52 PM
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