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Cossomby,
The physical "superiority" of the White Australian ethnic group is debatable and it's intellectual and emotional makeup could even be seen as inferior to native born White Europeans. That aside I don't accept "hybrid vigour" as an explanation,theres no such thing as an Irish-English hybrid or a British-German hybrid because we're all genetically so similar.
As I demonstrated earlier, draw a line through the Pyrenees and extend it to Belgrade then up to Helsinki, north and west of that line there's very little genetic variation across Ydna, Mtdna and autsomal DNA.
Europeans and Asians are also more closely related to each other than they are to Australoids and Africans so the only "Hybrids" would be European-Australoid, European African, Asian-African, Asian Australoid or African Australoid and the evidence goes way back the other way in those matings, it seems human hybridisation in that sense has dramatic effects on the health and fitness of the offspring.
Have you ever wondered why Jesse Owens or Usain Bolt turned out to be such physically impressive individuals or why Jews test well above other ethnic groups in academic areas? Hint: It's got something to do with inbreeding within a small gene pool, not hybridisation and outbreeding, it makes sense that that's why Africa which has the greatest genetic diversity among it's populations and a pre disposition to promiscuity and polygyny has so many people with sub 70 IQ's and severe physical handicaps.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 6:16:03 PM
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Cossomby, "the Aborigines we took over from and one way and another forced to adopt European ways and to assimilate, are also mimicking, adopting the ways of aliens, and have betrayed their ancestors."

Yes.

Many Aborigines needed no "forcing".
Our society was far more pleasant than their survive-one-more-day hunter-gatherer life.

Even now, there are places they can go and live traditional ways.
Most choose not to.

We made Christianity our own.
Middle Eastern culture didn't absorb us (like the Chinese man), we absorbed some of it (including the Hindu–Arabic numeral system).

The Arabs didn't impose these things, or introduce them in a way that transformed our genetic nature.

We made those things "European".
We were still living amongst our own kind, and our kind en masse supported this.

The Chinese man in adopting/mimicking our ways is not making those things "Chinese".

He is not living amongst his kind or part of any broad movement.

No longer Chinese, yet not Australian either.
He is a free radical, a cancerous cell.

"Breeding with close relatives over generations concentrates genetic weaknesses. Humans have long recognised this and deliberate exogamy was common in the past"

"Racism/xenophobia" was also "common in the past".

And for a similar reason: genetic defects (outbreeding depression) caused by too-distant strains.

Too-close *and* too-distant both cause problems.
But you dismiss the latter as an irrelevant concern.

"came from all over Britain (including Ireland/Scotland)"

White, White, White.

"In Australia they married people that they would never have met back home, who were genetically distant from them"

But still White.
Posted by Shockadelic, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 7:25:27 PM
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Paul1405 "This is a variation on the concept of separate development."

Oh, so Koreans didn't develop "separately" to Swedes?
Zulus didn't develop "separately" to Turks?

"purity of race must be maintained at all cost."

"At all cost" implies a willingness to do the most extreme or unethical acts.
Not applicable to myself.

"For the purist any racial mixing is evil"

"Evil"? Again, not applicable to me.
Undesirable, preferably avoided, but hardly "evil".

Considering the minute amount of mixing that actually occurs, it's largely irrelevant.
It's mass immigration by MILLIONS that is the threat to our people's survival, not the tiny fraction who mix.

davidf "We don’t know who first thought of the wheel or tamed fire,"

But we do know the origin of many other things, from ancient times to the modern era.

If we *know* Norwegians invented something, it's not merely "human" heritage, it's Norwegian heritage foremost.

Koreans and Turks could make use of this invention, but they could hardly claim it's "their" heritage.

"great literature produced by Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Cervantes, Dante and Goethe"

White, White, White, White, White.

"Great scientists like Einstein, Newton and Darwin"

White (yes, there are virtually no truly Semitic "Jews"), White, White.

"doubters such as Protagoras, Diogenes, Descartes, Hume, Spinoza, Montaigne"

White, White, White, White, White, White.

Doubter? You're the conformist to orthodoxy.
I'm the doubter.
The heretic on your rack.

"set humans at odds with each other."

If political ideology, racial/ethnic identity and religion didn't do it, something else would.
Jellybeans Vs. Freckles.

We created these concepts perhaps precisely because we cannot be everything and anything all at once.

We *need* boundaries, definitions, dichotomies.
We cannot live in a neutral vacuum.
Posted by Shockadelic, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 7:39:25 PM
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Dear Shockadelic,

The following list of inventions by the non-white Chinese is interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

China has been the source of many inventions, including the Four Great Inventions: papermaking, the compass, gunpowder and printing (both woodblock and movable type). The list below contains these and other inventions in China attested by archaeology or history.

The historical region now known as China experienced a history involving mechanics, hydraulics and mathematics applied to horology, metallurgy, astronomy, agriculture, engineering, music theory, craftsmanship, naval architecture and warfare. By the Warring States period (403–221 BC), inhabitants of the Warring States had advanced metallurgic technology, including the blast furnace and cupola furnace, while the finery forge and puddling process were known by the Han Dynasty (202 BC–AD 220). A sophisticated economic system in imperial China gave birth to inventions such as paper money during the Song Dynasty (960–1279). The invention of gunpowder by the 10th century led to an array of inventions such as the fire lance, land mine, naval mine, hand cannon, exploding cannonballs, multistage rocket and rocket bombs with aerodynamic wings and explosive payloads. With the navigational aid of the 11th century compass and ability to steer at high sea with the 1st century sternpost rudder, premodern Chinese sailors sailed as far as East Africa. In water-powered clockworks, the premodern Chinese had used the escapement mechanism since the 8th century and the endless power-transmitting chain drive in the 11th century. They also made large mechanical puppet theatres driven by waterwheels and carriage wheels and wine-serving automatons driven by paddle wheel boats.

Go to the url for more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eastern_Origins_of_Western_Civilisation

The Eastern Origins of Western Civilisation, written by John M. Hobson in 2004, is a book that argues against the historical theory of the rise of the West after 1492 as a "virgin birth", but rather as a product of Western interactions with more technically and socially advanced Eastern civilization.

Go to the url for more.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 8:12:36 PM
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David F,
All those inventions and no industrial revolution until the 1970's eh?
Hobson's 1492 book is BS, Anti Racist "history" is as credible and valuable to society as "Feminist Mathematics":
"John Hall of McGill University, writing in the English Historical Review, claims that Hobson's work is prone to wild exaggerations and "tends to cite only those parts of an author’s work that agree with his argument, and misses out whole realms of scholarship". Hobson, Hall continues, "tends to give us bad sociology," and his construct of Eurocentrism is "often a straw man." Generally, Hall remarks that Hobson makes "odd claims," such as asserting that "Adam Smith depended upon Chinese intellectual discoveries". Hall claims that Hobson's "general picture seems to fail".[3]
This bogus narrative of Chinese technical prowess and adventuring has earned it's status as an urban myth:
http://www.1421exposed.com/
Yeah, Zheng He went out with his fleets, then they came back home, dismantled their armada and never established an empire outside their historical borders.
Chinese technology advanced in line with the rest of the world via interaction with European missionaries and traders until the rise of Islam. The Jihadis destroyed the trade routes, massacred the Nestorian Christians, burned the all the libraries, schools and monasteries and put a blockade of ignorant,illiterate, sword wielding slobs between West and East.
If not for Islam China would have been a prosperous, Christian, European styled society in 1,000 AD. Peking would have been the Constantinople of the East, Macau it's Venice and they would have had a Renaissance, an enlightenment and an industrial revolution just as in the west.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 9:45:32 PM
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Found an interesting article an on a robotic arm catching objects thrown at it. It is the accompanying video that made it topical for this dicussion.

http://youtu.be/M413lLWvrbI

The three researchers were in turn Asian, Indian, and Caucasian, or in Shocker's vernacular yellow, brown and white. All collaborating at the cutting edge of technology.

It is the modern world fellas, move on.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 10:06:35 PM
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