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The picture in the first link has to be photoshopped!
Posted by Cossomby, Monday, 12 May 2014 12:50:14 AM
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Dear Cossomby,
Oh ye of little faith. Are you not aware that the holy land is famous for its transgender singing stars? In fact the first transgender ever to win Eurovision was Sharon Cohen born Yaron Cohen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_International Polling done by Ynet show Israelis regarded her in the top 50 Greatest Israelis. Cross dressing even extends to Israel's prime ministers. Ehud Barak, in the spring of youth, frocked up with deadly intent. The list goes on. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 12 May 2014 1:08:55 AM
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Jay,
Your link is more a case of BS baffles brains than any conclusive proof that <<Race mixing wasn't part of our past, that's been confirmed by DNA anaylsis>> Take Britain which over the past 2,000 years has been occupied by a number of different races, from the ancient Britains to Romans, Vikings, Anglo Saxons, Normans. These groups eventually assimilated into the one homogenous group, with a common language and culture, not being particular of any one of the sub groups, the modern English are not Normans, but are not totally not Norman. or Anglo Saxon. The French are not the Gauls or the Italian are not the Romans, they are a mix of various races. they are in their own way the result of multiculturalism. I believe when two races come together, rather than remain aloof the natural propensity is for the races to infuse (Cook's men in Tahiti). In South America where Spanish colonialism took over, the Spanish culture didn't complete transcend the indigenous culture but the two fused to form a hybrid unique South American culture, which today exhibits elements of both Spanish and indigenous culture, that has taken place over only a few hundred years. Do you agree with the common ancestry theory? Where it is believed all humans on the plant originate from a "common ancestor" with our origins in Africa more than 100,000 years ago. As for when sats don't agree with you, then you simply dismiss them as being unreliable or "fudged by Liberal media". Hitlers "scientists" were so far off the plant in their attempts to please the Fuhrer they would say anything. Totally unreliable. Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 12 May 2014 7:47:43 AM
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SteeleRedux "There does seem to be a formula – more diversity – less war."
Tell that to all the countries racked by interethnic conflict. The European diversity represented in Eurovision is the much the same as it was half a century ago, a century ago, a millennia ago. Dutch, French, Italian, Swedish, etc. Ethnic groups that go back centuries. Eurovision represents the diversity *between*, not within, nations. When has there been a Swedish contestant singing in French? Or a French one singing in Russian? Many sing in English, only because it's the international lingua franca, and they want to get as many votes as possible. That natural diversity of Europe, or the world as a whole, is not the same as the phoney artificially introduced diversity of multicultural mass immigration. Paul1405 "Take Britain which over the past 2,000 years has been occupied by a number of different races, from the ancient Britains to Romans, Vikings, Anglo Saxons, Normans" Those are ethnicities or nationalities, not "races". All of them are what would be called "White" today. "all humans on the plant originate from a "common ancestor" with our origins in Africa more than 100,000 years ago." A lot's happened in 100,000 years. All that diversity you claim to love would not exist without relative isolation, separation. You acknowledge Latin American culture developed in only a few centuries. Whether a culture/people had a modern or ancient ethnogenesis, it is what it is. There is no people/culture in the world that is a synthesis of *everything*, nor does there have to be. "Australia" and "Australians" didn't evolve from everything and anything, nor do we need to become such a synthesis. Posted by Shockadelic, Monday, 12 May 2014 11:42:27 AM
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Dear Shocker,
Sorry mate but that is ludicrous. Black singers have been part of Eurovision since the early days of the contest. Here is Milly Scott singing for the Netherlands in 1966 http://youtu.be/mVHqkE5Qx18 And Eduardo Nascimento singing for Portugal in 1967 http://youtu.be/5E-mYJeNpfI A black singer was even part of a duo who won the contest for Estonia in 2001 http://youtu.be/Ies77jcZ5s4 Acceptance of what was once regarded as 'the other' tempers race based nationalism. Eurovision shows that national pride can be celebrated without recourse identification by skin colour. They get it why can't you. The world is moving on without you mate. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 12 May 2014 12:31:38 PM
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Paul,
The people who emigrated to England in prehistoric and distant historic times were all closely related, that's what repeated surveys over the last 10 years have proven. The idea that Europeans are a "mongrel" race is completely false, the difference between an Irishman and a Swede across Y,MtDNA and Autosomal measures is insignificant compared to, say a German and a Greek or a Frenchman and a Jew. What we always knew about race has been proven correct due to the advances in science over the last 20 years, if a person says "I'm of wholly Russian ancestry" that claim can be checked by a DNA test. Paul what do you think they test for in Israel when someone takes a test to confirm their Jewish roots? You're going to have to accept that Richard Lewontin, Stephen Jay Matthews, Jared Diamond and all the other Jewish pop scientists and sociobiologists were blatantly lying about race and did so for ideological reasons or because it was "Good for the Jews". Besides anything else if you want to rely on 45 year old information about race and ethnicity in preference to the latest findings then I can't really help you anymore. If you had cancer would you say to the doctors "Hey! How about you dig out some old textbooks and treat me in exactly the way they did in 1970!"? So now you can save yourself some time and join in slinging the insults with the others because there's no reasonable, scientifically valid rebuttal to the statement "Race is real and it matters" Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 12 May 2014 1:35:12 PM
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