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Do we follow UK down the Islamic path?

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Dear o sung wu,

Yes mate I do realise you are one of the 'I'm not racist but...' brigade. If you choose not to think of yourself as racist that is most certainly your prerogative. If in the judgement of others you appear to walk like a duck and talk like a duck then the conclusion they draw ie, that you are probably are a duck, is also their prerogative.

So when you complain “I also unequivocally stated I'm NOT a racist” please do not expect this alone to alter the perceptions of others, it won't. It is just like me stating unequivocally that I am not an “apologist and propagandist” for Islam but having you repeat the accusation the very next post. Perfectly within your rights of course but please don't expect me to treat you any differently to what you dish out.

Whilst being under little obligation to read any of your posts bar besides those directed at me I did note your involvement as a detective. But that is not the proposition/jibe you directed at me. I quote;

“I might remind you STEELEREDUX you've never worn a police uniform in Bankstown or any of it's environs.”

I was perfectly correct in pointing out neither had you.

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Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 22 February 2014 6:57:17 PM
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Now to me and my supposed high horse. Mate I have never in my life corresponded with people so determined to look down on another group of human beings as you lot here. Your cohort take every opportunity to expound how much superior you and your supposed culture is, to vilify, debase and dehumanise. Climb off the Clydesdale mate and I might see about hopping of my Shetland.

Finally I was not 'crowing' about anything, I was making a point about support not being portrayed as 'apologists' for behaviour. I do not condone police corruption nor unwarranted violence however I do fully respect them and the job they do. Just this afternoon my wife and I stopped to assist with a situation involving an elderly lady who despite only being mobile through the use of a walking stick was making her way along a central Victorian highway determined to get to Adelaide.

Obviously confused, perhaps afflicted with dementia, the lady refused any assistance and offers of a ride to the nearest town and became agitated, dangerously crossing the highway. We stayed with another lady to keep an eye on her until the police arrived. The officer who attended did a brilliant job, quietly talking to the woman until she calmly got into his vehicle. A great job of compassionate, professional policing.

However I note you, on another thread, have decided to have a crack at our Federal Police, questioning their worth. My sibling proudly did their time within their ranks, not without risk to life and limb, and helped put away some pretty nasty people. So may I suggest that you take your own advice and “open that very blinkered mind of yours” before you slag off about fellow law enforcement officers. You disrespect their service to the rest of us.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 22 February 2014 7:00:11 PM
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Hi (again) STEELEREDUX...

Of course you're quite correct apropos the uniform bit - but surely you'd agree, as a detective I would've been in a perfect position to witness everything our uniformed, GD colleagues, had to contend with ?

Your illustration of the 'duck bit' could also apply to you ? For the intractable posture you've adopted in defending these people, perhaps ?

I'll let you into a little confidence STEELEREDUX - as a working detective, you have very little time, nor opportunity to effectively conduct your enquiries, if you allow yourself to be physically and emotionally encumbered or blindsided, with any of your own mindless prejudices or intolerances.

I'm compelled to admit, the job is demanding enough, without any of us aimlessly wandering down that meandering little road, to one's vocational perdition ? Surely you would accept that ?

Pause for moment STEELEREDUX, there's always three sides to every problem. There's yours, and then mine, and then, the truth ?

And in conclusion, I was NOT in any way, denigrating the Australian Federal Police. A senior journo. of the Melbourne Herald Sun, was the individual who sought to degrade them. To me personally, a copper is a copper, is a copper. We all have the same problems, the same issues, the same philosophy. Moreover we're all coppers, full stop ! Members of the world's biggest vocational club !

However, I know very little about them, hence the topic. Oh, I understand one of your siblings was a member of the AFP ? Perhaps then your sibling through you, may care to contribute to the topic ?
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 22 February 2014 8:10:22 PM
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Susie,
You are incorrect, neither a religion or a culture is a race and the word applies to a race.

So, according to you, It would be racism if Aus decided to ban a particular group from coming here on cultural grounds. For example if they practiced honour killing or acid attacks on former lovers. You would contend that the group should have a right to come to our shores.

You are quite wrong. We have a perfect right to not allow persons entry on the grounds of alien cultural practices and that is not racism.

Again I suggest you are attempting to change the meaning of the word racism, simply because you believe that such an allegation will put your opponents on the defensive. To me it merely demonstrates that you have no argument, and resort to personal attacks.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 22 February 2014 9:59:21 PM
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Suse,

You're showing your age; it's decades since the nuns kicked the habit.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 22 February 2014 10:13:29 PM
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words changed to protect..the innocent

,,..<<..but surely you'd agree, as a PRISONER.. I would've been in a perfect position to witness everything our IMPRISONED, crimalised colleagues, had to contend with ?>>

sometimes..WE NEED step one step back
To get a clearer impression..

i have NEVER Met any prisoner..[IN JAIL]..WHO WAS GUILTY..
no doubt MANY POLICE..FIND THEM ALL THE TIME..so many 'confessions'..simply because they PUT Trust in the blue UNIFORM[NOW MADE IN BLOOD PROOF BLACK..FOR PURPOSE of intimidation/AND MIND RESET.

the times/PLACE/SITUATION..CHANGE THE MAN
when your power less..JUST THE THOUGHT OF..power appeals
AND THEN..ONCE YOU GOT THE POWER/AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTLY

instead OF DUTY..IT became sport
OR ENTERTAINMENT..OR Duty..instead of service.
just like if you hurt one christian/they yet resent it/even if they turn..the other cheek

i figure/the bigger man..sets the ruleS
IS THE SMALL THINGS..that accumulate..till one day..we became that we HATED.
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 23 February 2014 2:33:22 AM
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