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Do we follow UK down the Islamic path?
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Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 23 February 2014 7:27:51 PM
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otb,
The fair-skinned Lithuanians and other European arrivals were seen as a tangible response to the popular call of the day, to "populate or perish." this too was part of Mr Caldwell's motivation. The migrants presence helped allay the Australian population's fears of "the yellow hordes in the north" (Klaasen, 1997, p.155). The following link may help with the brioader picture: http://www.bonegilla.org.au/research/images/193802_Europes_Displaced.pdf Mr Caldwell received a gift from the Lithuanians while they were on board ship. They were naturally happy to be arriving - having escaped from the the second Soviet occupation of their country. I doubt if they would have given him any gifts at a later date however. Dear Is Mise, This doesn't change the fact that Australia was the last country to enter the International Refugee Organisation's Resettlement Scheme and political rhetoric aside, "economic expedience was by far the stronger motivation..." and that the rest of the passage was paid by various non-Australian welfare agencies. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 23 February 2014 7:56:21 PM
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Dear Banjo,
My apologies for having contributed to de-railing your thread. I shall try to stick to the topic in future. I continue like a fool to respond to otb's stirring. I should know better by now. I can't understand why he doesn't start his own threads on issues he's fixated on. I sometimes get the vibe that he's fixated on me for some peculiar reason. But of course I'm now being paranoid. Silly me. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 23 February 2014 8:13:50 PM
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Foxy,
The truth is sufficient. No black armband. The proud migrants and the government and people who welcomed them don't need this century's victim politics. They would be embarrassed by it. My concern is is to ensure that the history of the Lithuanian settlement in Australia post-WW2 is not re-written to accord the discourse and politics of modern victimhood. Everyone had a tough time after the war. Australia did its very best to help displaced persons. They wouldn't have stayed on to raise their families if they didn't want to. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 23 February 2014 8:47:23 PM
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Foxy,
To equate a tenner of the late 1940s with $20 of 2014's money is misleading and shews, on your part, either an intention to give an entirely wrong impression or a serious lack of knowledge of fiscal matters. Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 23 February 2014 9:22:20 PM
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unsure what the ISSUE relates..[10 POUND POMS?]
but the conversion..of pounds[weight]..into dollars..[also units of weights]..hides one of the greatest WEALTH THEFts..globally. ismise reminds us that this so cALLED 20 BUCKS..IN Todays face vALUES REPRESENTED 10 POUNDS..OR SAY 5 KG..OF [IN WAR TIME] SILVER COIN]..5 kg of pURE SILVER SHOULD EQUAL ARROUND 3000 dollars today. but much depends uPON its purity..[after ww2..thEY HALVED THE SILVER CONTENT/IE DEBASED THE QUEENS COIN..INTO STERling silver..[50 percent silver]..that was of course after they took away gold money/the silver coin ended..WITH DECIMALISATION wjen we exchanged our shillings and pence/for uncOMMON CENTS AS TIME EVOLVED OF COURSE THEY took away our pennies and soon takeaway our coin all together[5 CENT PIECES ARE ELIMINATED FOR EXAMPLE ON QLD BUSES]..the biased unfair 'CASH' FAres ..ARE 'ROUNDED UP] WE FORGET PENNY WAS A WEIGHT/dollar IS A WIGHT POUNDS SHILLINGS AND PENCE..ARE ALL Weights..IN FACT VALUABLE METALS-WEIGHT..EXCEPT SILVER IS A HEALTHY METAL[AND NICKLE MAKES US SICK]..REGARDLESS GOVT PUT IN 3000/real CASH value..THATS BEYOND Dispute..the 'welfare Agencies who knows..but for that many of us wouldnt be here. BUT BANKERS HAVE LOOTED THE GOLD/SIlver [CUE THE WIKISEED/WIKIGELD] Posted by one under god, Monday, 24 February 2014 3:34:12 AM
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You said "The Australian government
contributed only ten pounds ($20) towards each migrant's
fare. The rest of the passage was paid by various
non-Australian welfare agencies."
Ten quid represented far more than $20 of today's money; in 1949's terms it was two weeks wages for a tradesman, so today the equivalent is around $3,000.