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Do we follow UK down the Islamic path?
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Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 27 February 2014 4:33:51 PM
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Dear Shocker,
Your views are shared by quite a few of the posters on this forum so you can take comfort in numbers. And of course you're all entitled to your opinions. What you're not entitled to, as I've stated time and time again, are the facts. And despite whatever you say the facts remain as historical records for all to see and judge. Of course, having said that - ( and again as I've stated in the past) - a historian can establish that an act took place on a certain day, but this, by historical standards, constitutes only chronology. The moment a historian begins to look critically at motivation, circumstances, context, or any other considerations, the product becomes unacceptable for one or another camp of readers. If people are reluctant to modify their judgements this can lead to the questionable practice of stereotyping each other as well as a total breakdown in communication, and worse - personal insults, harrassment, and ill-feelings especially on public forums such as this one - where its convenient to hide behind anonymity and say things to people they don't really know, and things they wouldn't say to their face. But that's the internet. It brings out the best and the worst elements in some people. Anyway, I've re-discovered the following link by Dr Eva Sallis and although it's approx. seven years old - it's still relevant today. You probably won't get much out of it (despite your self-proclaimed high IQ), because of your lack of emotional empathy, as I pointed out earlier, but it says much of what I feel, and I thought it worth including here: http://australiansall.com.au/archive/post/australian-dream-australian-nightmare-some-thoughts-on-multiculturalism-and-racism/ For me this discussion has now run it's course you'll have to find someone else to talk to. And I'm sure you will. Plenty of kindred spirits around - some simply baying at the heels and froathing at the mouth. See you on another thread - I'm out of this one. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 27 February 2014 5:20:07 PM
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Simply amazing! LOL
There was a Labor Premier of Queensland, Peter Beattie aka 'Mr Teflon' or 'Teflon Pete' who could do that. Even totally caught out by his own words, 'Mr Teflon' could talk and talk and talk, finally redirecting the question or charge back against the journalist and looking the victim himself. Peter Beattie was never crude though, or at least not in public. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 27 February 2014 7:30:45 PM
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I know Foxys heart, it is much the same as great numbers of Australians, one open to those in need always.
And I know myself, and this country[ if the majority think as I believe] are near racist in some eyes. I however will not move one milli meter! consider why. The thread talks of England, see the hate filled words of Islamic converts given life and near life for the most brutal of murders. Consider how many, come be honest! people would come if we let them. Tell me in a time of job loss and cuts we can, indefinitely spend our welfare dollars on those *who never ever paid tax here* Then. in the end, be honest it is the Islamic Religion that drives most anti boat people thoughts. It is! Why is it near unclean to remind us all no God ever existed. Why do we give followers of phantoms tax breaks and freedom to? Interfere in our daily life? Confront the divisive nature of God, then we will ask many more questions about world wide death murder rapes undertaken in his/her name, do we need that? Do we support that? Posted by Belly, Friday, 28 February 2014 6:12:03 AM
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http://www.smh.com.au/comment/welcome-back-to-white-australia-20140227-33m4w.html?google_editors_picks=true
This link is worth the read, to both sides of this debate. But too it ignores some questions that I think need answers. How many will come if we act other than our current ways. How many will be on our welfare system after arrival. And for how long. Has the current behavior of past arrivals now settled here been seen and understood. Do we remember *the anti west racist and insulting Sydney riot* While taking every chance to insult those Australians who put an end to years of RACIST taunts at Cronulla Beach. Do we remember those hate filled signs at the racist riot in Sydney. And that woman screaming at us why would we want to integrate with people like you? I still think the link is worth a read. If only to know your enemy, see truth is first victim in this debate Posted by Belly, Friday, 28 February 2014 10:00:18 AM
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Belly, "I know Foxys heart, it is much the same as great numbers of Australians, one open to those in need always"
Do tell. Could you kindly read my earlier post then and explain her obvious and often stated contempt for Australians? I cannot say her Aussie compatriots because she always puts her European inheritance (and her claimed victimhood which her forbears don't claim themselves!) first. This one, <Foxy. With respect, it was an outrageously offensive, elitist thing to say about Australia. You may not intend it, but it comes across as the crass arrogance of the archetypal European toff dismissing Australians. That is if any Europeans actually know that Australia exists, or cares. A cultural cringe, "It's important to remember Australia before the waves of migration. It was dull, self-satisfied and joylessly conformist. Not sinply(sic) null and boring, but nullarboring. Not merely mindless, but lobotomised". Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 9:26:32 PM> http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6251&page=24 Any wonder that endless 'diversity' without the public having any say on it is the policy of the lunatic Greens and political 'Progressives' aka the wolves in sheep's clothing (what they call themselves!). Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 28 February 2014 10:34:27 AM
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For present generations you are destroying the people and place they grew up in.
For future generations you offer an "Australia" unrecognisable as "Australian", with no connection to their ancestral history.
"Feelings" have nothing to do with it.
My arguments is based on a realistic awareness of human nature and history.
It's the utopian wishful thinkers who base everything on "feelings".
Quoting Philip Adams?
Didn't finish school, former Communist, talk back radio, ABC, advertising, co-producer of The Adventures of Barry McKenzie?
What a role model! Better than Gandhi!
I'm sure if you actually lived in the homelands of immigrants, you'd find them just as conformist and monochromatic.
Their flavour and flair is an optical illusion, only visible to "dull, conformist" middle class Whites.
"multi-culturalism involves taking some considerable risks"
But is it wise to take all those risks at once (all cultures/ethnicities *simultaneously*) and to such a degree (100,000 per year)?
Why not take smaller risks?: lower numbers, incremental scope.
"wanting truth versus falsehood"
Well truth-lover, your artificially imposed diversity is the falsehood.
Nothing authentic about it whatsoever.