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CFMEU Ostrich

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Beach, your mob don't seem to have a problem taking the dosh from the big end of town, do they?. The corporate big wigs see it as money well spent, a quid in the Mad Monks pocket today, is repaid a thousand fold tomorrow, with plenty of favorable legislation coming their way.

What about that cool $580,000 Ros Packer threw into the Liberal Party coffers, that should win the Packer empire a few favors, not that they need them. Jamie is already cashing in at Barangaroo

http://www.smh.com.au/business/libs-the-winners-in-political-donations-20140203-31xb6.html
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 7:43:46 PM
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Paul,

I don't have a 'mob'. My interests are two-fold:

- first, protect our freedom especially freedom of speech from those who would curtail it (and have done so under the previous Labor/Greens government), and

- secondly, to get value for money from government expenditure of the taxes compulsorily taken from us. That necessitates transparency of decision-making, robust measures of performance and regular, independent audits.

However you are merely trying to divert attention away from the involvement of Adam Bandt and the Greens in the CFMEU scandal. The Greens really lost it when they allowed all of those Trotsykists and n'er-do-wells to convert an environmental party into the present hated Greens Watermelon Party. Thinly green outside but red the whole way through. Not Left as any old lefties would understand it, but lunatic fringe, barking mad and always treacherous. Gillard re-learned what was obvious to all but her.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 9:18:26 PM
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Foxy my dear friend please understand I must take my own direction in this matter.
Unlike almost any one here, I once moved in that circle just out side the center of my movements.
And lived with the Cole Royal Commissions lies and waste.
I could write an essay of at least 100 pages about it,and no one could challenge the waste it was.
I think my stand is just and needed.
I will until I die, consider the explosion time and again, of bad/filthy actions of others harming the ALP a thing we must confront and stop.
Once we thought 42 percent of primary votes meant Labor was in trouble.
Only a mad man would not see here and former posts highlight why we struggle.
I hope to see ten thousand Bellys, folk who care for the union movement and ALP more than their own reputation.
The link is to highlight corruption is not confined to this country.
And to give me the opportunity to say in all truth the indefensible CFMEU is playing with penny,s in building construction.
Millions of dollars in government projects are stolen by top employees of EVERY construction company.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 5:41:39 AM
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Some random truths.
CFMEU sent a few thugs, wearing full face masks, to the head of a construction company in Vic,s home!
Terrorizing his family, maybe those masks hid bikers or even worse, it is no way to deal.
I repeat, just goggle their NSW webpage, unless it is changed they proudly boast they are Australians only extremist union.
EBA Enterprise Bargaining Agreements largely they are replacing awards.
And both sides like them and want to continue using them.
I hope the day comes all will have them.
They see such as less sick time taken as some is paid out ,a bosses introduced thing to see less lost time.
RDO is doing that too hours worked remain, extra being worked each day to make RDO possible.
Above all remember as we are about to confront a war on wages/workers/unions the current lies about EBA s are just that.
Please Lexi, consider these words, Abbott takes to his war cabinet, not that he needs reason, to attack fair wages.
The horrible truth about the CFMEU Unions are not all like that, if for no other reason than defending the movement/ALP a stand must be taken Ostrich like head in sand will only work if we can get Joe and Jane average to put their fingers in their ears and head in the sand too!
There is the stark truth.
If we deceive ourselves we never can ignore the truth that most voters, not in to self deception will hold us to account.
Too Abbott,s war on workers needs a solid bullet proof ALP/UNION to fight him.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 6:02:40 AM
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No,no,no Beach, you are behind the times. Down here at Watermelons HQ we replaced the Trotsykists with Stalinists, , or was it the other way round, people coming and going all the time, anyway it was a long time ago, hard to keep up. BUT! never mind, they all have been replaced by the Fabians, so said your very own Miss Marple. Just last evening a meeting of Comrade Leeski, Comrade Adamski and Meski voted anomalously ski two to one to replace the Fabians in the ranks with the Methodists, we would have replaced the rats in the ranks, but they are in the Labor Party. Beach, why don't you give Miss Marple the flick, it can't be much fun looking for all those imaginary reds under the beds, we do lots of fun stuff at Watermelon HQ, like....like....well we do lots of fun stuff, and also I will be able to call you Comrade Beachski. LOL.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 6:22:56 AM
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Dear Belly,

Of course I understand and hear what you're saying.
And I respect your integrity, as I've told you previously.
Don't get me wrong - I'm all for investigating
corruption. But not with an expensive Royal Commission
that I feel won't achieve much except destroy the
union structure, which I believe is the current
government's aim.
Therefore - my concern is that this is not about couuption
at all but a long term aim towards the Australian union
structure.

I would hate to see Australia move in the
direction of the United States. In the 1980s in the
US there was an all-out assault on the American unions
and that lead not only to stagnation in wages but
also the living conditions of the "working class."
It also ultimately meant the shrinkage of the "middle class"
until currently it's looking like a new feudal age is
coming to that country, with all the extreme inequality
associated with that. So, I repeat I would hate to see
Australia move further in that direction.

Some are currently suggesting that unions use intimidation.
Where and how? The Labor Party kept much of the Workchoices
policy - including the limitations of union access to
workplaces
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 11:08:18 AM
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