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Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 12:51:08 PM
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Foxy in all honestly Australian workers are now under attack and the fight will be long and hard.
Today,s press club speech then question answering has again reminded me of the sheer BRILLIANCE of Paul Howes a one day Prime Minister of this country. I will never withdraw my claims his and that other BRILLIANT Bill Shorten in respect to their part in the controlling faction right, and its infamous acts 2010 till 2013, too recent grave damage done in SA soon to become Long term Liberal, can be added to the list. He quite brilliantly put up a new accord type of opportunity for true ways to resolve this country,s never ending industrial warfare. And in terms that under stood SOME wage deals are excessive and price workers out of a job. He has convinced me a RC is needlessly wasteful and, as he said, and by the way boss of the CFMEU, Police should investigate the crimes . Here I leave our future Prime Minister Howes. He mentioned a who cares less attitude to out siders in relation to on going troubles in the ranks. I see his view as Ostrich like and dedicate the thread to him. *In the end if it looks criminal smells criminal it is perceived criminal it is criminal*! Out job is to increase members constantly to do that we need to hear their voices and thoughts. Not back our ever decreasing membership in to a shrinking corner shouting solidarity forever until we put out the last light. Remember the idiotic comments some hold came from a smaller truth in our ranks truth can never be avoided oh if you area Liberal supporter its policy. We in the Labor movement are better than that. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 2:15:38 PM
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Dear Belly,
Isolated allegations of wrongdoing in one industry should be investiagted by the police and should not be used to justify a full-scale assault on the union movement. However as ACTU Secretary Dan Oliver points out ever since the 2007 election campaign when the union movement successfully campaigned on workers rights - "From that day onwards Tony Abbott and now his government have had the trade union movement in their sights and they are determined to desempower the movement and this will be one step, a way of trying to blemish the reputation of the proud trade movement in this country and drain their resources." It seems that "first Tony Abbott will go after unions then he'll come for people's rights at work." Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 3:00:59 PM
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/05/paul-howes-calls-for-end-to-industrial-relations-blood-sport
Foxy I understand your views. But calling the History of the CFMEU a few random things is to deny not just truth but the evidence. As hard as it is we the movements supporters must confront the truth. HSU AWU storys greatly harmed Labor and contributed to our loss. The shameful acts of the right 2010to2013 helped. We just must not! Be blind to decade after decade of CFMEU thug acts Foxy if we lack the guts to run a clean broom in our own back yard we deserve to be unelectable. No cover up, clean up. And in truth that clean up in unions is on the way curtsy of the ACTU and union heads around this country. Once done we can rebuild on good foundations and only look back to remember why we must never let it happen again. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 4:56:58 PM
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Dear Belly,
I bow to your expertise in this area. With the previous reservations that I expressed. I still believe that Mr Abbott and Co are not interested in corruption - but have a bigger agenda. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 5:00:40 PM
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Foxy sorry but while you will know my agreement with your view on Abbott is true I have other thoughts.
We have spent the years 2010 till now loading his rifles for him. HSU NSW FILTH all that time eating away at the good name of trade unions the CFMEU as well but for three decades. I want us to stop loading their guns and handing them to them. Foxy, on readering recent spotlight on Child molesters even police, in our Church institutions has hurt me deeply. I ask constantly do they believe in God,and why did they get away with it why did no one speak? I refuse to be a bystander , to not speak, and ask did the HSU filth believe in workers rights? Did the NSW Labor Parliamentary FILTH ever hold the ALP policy's at heart, did they believe in the ALP? I speak out for those who dare not but want to. For a better out come for workers not the scraps thrown at them by some. Average unionist/workers want better than the CFMEU. If there are no consequences in betraying the ALP.Union movement we are doomed Posted by Belly, Thursday, 6 February 2014 8:24:52 AM
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What gall! You are constantly requiring what is already available and in the public domain to provided and re-proved again.
You are forever declaring that you are a 'librarian'. You have a habit of lecturing other posters on how to debate and you claim reliable 'independent sources'. So go for it yourself.
However you could just drop some key words like criminal, bikies, Greens (add political donations + CFMEU), unions and scandal into Google and *bingo*, your question will be answered by reports from more reliable, reputable news outlets.
Scrutiny is feared by scoundrels and not by the many good people who pay union dues and are the victims along with taxpayers. In fact, all citizens are harmed in some way by the disgraceful corruption that is endemic. Why didn't the previous 'Progressive' Labor/Greens government take action? Maybe the answer lies in following that 'Progressive' agenda instead of providing good government.
Anyhow, what is in it for you to run block for villains?