Dear Belly,

I agree that allegations of wrong doing should be
investigated by the police. I do not agree that
this should justify a full-scale assault on the
union movement.

See you on another thread.

Dear Belly,

I forgot to mention that I shall be taking a break
from this forum for a while (personal reasons).
I may or may not be back - however, it has been a
pleasure sharing cyberspace with you. Keep up the
good work.

Take care.

Take care Foxy, I'm sure we all wish you the very best, and will very much look forward to your return in due course.
Should you decide not to return, your balanced and caring contributions will be sorely missed.
God speed.

Peter.

http://www.news.com.au/national/labors-bill-shorten-says-awus-paul-howes-idea-of-a-government-and-union-compact-is-a-fantasy/story-fncynjr2-1226819244617
Foxy I hope you get on top of your troubles and hope too you return.
Life has thrown its share of brickbats at me and I found relief in the every day little things like a bird singing in my garden the very best to you.
The headline that comes with my link is deceptive, deliberately so, it tells the truth further down but try,s to say a rift exists between Howes and Shorten, in time under and ALP Government,such a reform to IR will come.

Paul Howes is practical and has big brass ones,

whereas,

Bill Shorten aka 'Whatever She Says', is superficial, populist and limp. His missus the GG's daughter will one day hand his metrosexual 'nads back to him if and when she says he can have them. That will not be sometimes soon - she knows he has a roving eye.

The important thing isn't whether Howes is completely right or not, but that he and the AWU he represents obviously believe that Billie Shorten isn't up to the task and is wasting everyone's time. Shorten either doesn't know when serious judgement and decisions are required (in lieu of his usual flakey puff stuff for the leftie peanut gallery), or, what is more likely, he just doesn't have what it takes to be leader.

Thanks folks for good contributions and letting me let of steam.
I refrain from further posts unless some commentator worth replying to comes.
Last thoughts?
bit stunned that gentle and nice lady Foxy may not return.
And not unexpected she thinks my attack thoughts went a bit too far, after all many if not most in my party think the same.
Yet I consider acceptance of the filth as an act of treason!
By the way Foxy began the post stater Dear in replying to posters a thing that has caught on here.
May we all remember her past targeting because she told us in a may be last post she was quite ill, and received the worst insulting trash talk reply I ever saw here go Foxy you good thing!