Foxy,
You said, "They are not breaking any law".

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

By entering Aus without a valid visa they are breaking our law.

Traffic offences are not classed as criminal either but, say speeding, is breaking the law. There are many laws not classed as criminal.

To arrive in Aus without a valid visa is serious enough to get the person detained (locked up) and freedom denied. Entry is denied and in the case of air travellers, promptly deported to place of embarkation.

Intending to make an application for protection does not give the person special right to enter Australia without valid visa.

While it is always our habit we again, drift from the threads subject.
It needs addressing still those wishing to come, and the smugglers are having us all on.
The burnt hands issue is a lie.

Belly,
i agree !

‘morning SteeleRedux,

If your posts are any indication, the progressive advocacy business is going through some tough times at the moment?

It’s always good to hear from people who passionately “believe” in things, more importantly to observe their reactions to being challenged. That it what OLO is all about.

I am particularly impressed by your reflective angst and your patronizing, arrogant and dismissive tone, no doubt emanating from the fact that you are more used to preaching to the converted. << Here is a nice little exercise for the good folk here>>, << you lot,>>
<< vacuous and petty>> and << Persistent little fellow aren't we >>.

Mmmm, don’t we just love the “intelligentsia”?

Whilst motivation and purpose are a valuable litmus test in assessing ideologues, the stronger pointers are always the moral/value proposition of topic socialization.

Socialization by rhetoric is great fun, you just have to take any comment or topic with which you disagree, reinterpret the context and change the meaning to make room for your rhetoric.

My reference to treating our armed forces so badly was of course, in relation to the public questioning of their professionalism by the Squalk-a-tariat.

Regardless of how “hearty”(?) our Naval forces are, they are in no position to defend themselves from the absolute flogging these << yet to be substantiated allegations >> are getting from much of our media.

If you genuinely believe that your rhetoric makes room for the concept that our professional forces and their families are immune to repetitive public denigration, against which they cannot defend, then your are entitled to suggest that such concerns are << emotive clap trap >> and for them and their families it is just << purely water off a ducks back >>.

Simples, you have just maintained the progressive lefts long, inglorious and grubby history in relation to our military.

Congratulations and happy Australia Day.

Well said Spin, clap, clap, clap, clap, well said. big :-) LoL

I agree too Belly.

Are these asylum seekers having their Human Rights Abused? Is it OK to lie & cheat your way into a country you wish to corrupt?

http://dotsub.com/media/b5ee5ada-5b37-4b0b-9916-e0896337ec4b/e/m

Steelie, YOU are not allowed to watch this.