Hi Jayb,

Yes, sad isn’t it?

You are spot on that the SteeleRedux’s of this world cannot and will not seek information, opinion or fact from outside their self referential networks. The problem is that Steelie “may” be a professional in today’s world. Now that is really scary.

Their condition is well documented in behavioral science, a matter I attempted to bring to the attention of SteeleRedux. Not that He/She was prepared to go there.

If we ever hear from Steelie again, I can guarantee that the very same format and content will be puked out as “objective truth” designed to either impress or intimidate those who they think don’t know any better.

You my friend, are one of those on the “outer”, just like me, well done.

As a form of consolation, may I offer you a small but encouraging thought. In his essay, The Eunuch at The Orgy, Raymond Tallis has this to say;

“Like the eunuch at the orgy who was always first with the gossip, but being forced to realize that he doesn’t really know what’s going on, his knowledge is not real and that far from being the centre of things, he is forever on the margin”.

This thought inspires me, SteeleRedux is just a social eunuch. In the end “The bullshifters and the liars may hold centre stage for a while but in the end they are found out and their contributions forgotten”.

Isn’t it nice to think that for the progressives, they will not be remembered by the history they tried to change?

So much for critical thinking Eh? Let the “Stale Refluxes” of our world forever live on the margins of life.

Dear spindoc,

Sorry mate but no tertiary degree here. Had to do my year 5 (today's year 11) three times and my Matriculation twice. So any attempt on your behalf to 'snare' an intellectual is a waste of energy I'm afraid.

I'm just a bloke who happens to loathe bullies and their bulldust. I see Abbott as one of the biggest and although it would have been nice to trundle off quietly I think voices of dissent need to be supported through what will be a difficult time for our country. If I manage to pop the odd balloon every now and again of one of his many currently crowing supporters then all to the good.

So do I enjoy having jayb go all shrill and do his “Look at me! Look at me!” dance? Yes.

Do I think having the scab pulled off individual to reveal “those unarmed refugees are the bearers of tomorrow's force of mayhem within Australia. Haven't you heard of silent invasions without a shot being fired ?” is important? Yes.

But what I enjoy most is when people, so used to swanning around here aggressively dishing it out, start claiming foul. As I have written before it is a typical bully's retort.

Some like o sung wu respond with a call for greater conviviality which I applaud even if he is still loathed to see the fault of all who transgress. To me that is a positive move. There are others who will just keep slamming away because that is their nature. Well I now happily return the fire when it is warranted. Gone are the days when I would rely solely on quiet reasoning, there are good folk on here that do just that. If you want to 'spindoctor' with lines like those who “take a bullet for us are treated so badly”, expect to be met with the same.

Nothing that should get your knickers in a knot if you are in the right.

So if you want the bar raised or the game changed the the ball is in your court.

Steelie: I'm just a bloke who happens to loathe bullies and their bulldust.

My God, you must really hate your Imam & fellow fanatical Islamic friends. Do they know that?

Don't you look at that link Steelie. What ever you do.

Dear individual,

I have found another of your traitors for you.

“A retired senior Royal Australian Navy (RAN) officer has hit out at the Federal Government's stop the boats policy as "morally corrupt and totally indefensible".
"For our leaders to proclaim personal and religious ethics amazes me," said retired RAN Captain John Ingram, recognised in yesterday's Australia Day honours with an Order of Australia Medal for his decades of work supporting the Indo-Chinese community, and also for leading a naval rescue of 99 asylum seekers from a sinking boat.”

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-27/coalition-boats-policy-morally-indefensible-says-john-ingram/5220886

"And turning back boats on the open sea and pursuing towards Indonesia, which happened just recently, is not the naval way of doing things."

Hear hear John!

It certainly wasn't when my father served as a naval officer and it shouldn't be that way now.

Gee whiz individual, where are you going to put us all?

is not the naval way of doing things."
SteeleReedux,
The navy is not looking after them once they drop them here are they ? The retired naval officer should do what he is supposed to do, retire & keep his nose out of things he did such a poor job of & left us with the mess.
It's probably due to the likes of your father that we have this silly attitude now.
Australians have proven over the years that they're not against refugees but they're waking up & are now turning against refugees turned invaders for an ignorant religion.

Well it seems we are not done yet with this subject.
I truly am concerned at the constant highlighting of little things or non-existing ones to assist boat people and under mine our government.
Look I would love to insult them the government, but in truth on this issue they act as the over whelming majority wish them to.
Consider how many land in our rubber boat and how many confront them.
If a Cop uses that spray against one violent drunk we understand lets do that here.
ABC to current target of the Abbott-Murdock government, has produced both Liberal and Labor members of parliament.
It too has some true left in its ranks.
But do we silence them and freedom of speech just because our current governments partner/sponsor wants to make more money/have more power.
We confidently, know only the easy led see other than people told not to come spending big to ignore that advise being turned around and wanting to complain about anything to try to weaken our resolve.