I having just re read the whole thread note I have made a mess of some of my posts.
Yet as the subject gets hot, our usual in this theme, lets look at the truths.
Hundreds of thousands indeed multi millions are currently called refugees.
And I have no problems with those numbers.
Unlike most here, I support taking more refugees.
And reject totally, the thought boat people able to pay tens of thousands are refugees.
Can pro boat people focus on those terrible numbers waiting in camps all over the world, to come here legally?
Are we taking their pain for granted?

World wide refugees are a growing concern.
And some openly, say money and a better lifestyle is the reason not wars.
UNHCR and its useless big brother could do much better if they put better governments in place in country,s they flee because of wars.
And in feeding and building economy's in others they flee.

Providing they are not Muslim & they have been properly processed & come directly from UNCHR Refugee Camps. I don't have a problem either.

Let the Muslims go to a suitable safe Islamic Country, E.g., Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, The top of Africa & Pakistan, any of the Stans for that matter, & live there where they will be happier amongst their own religion & similar Customs.

When Morrison gets the boats stopped there will be more places for genuine refugees.

As we seem to be having a lot of problems with the African refugees here, why not stop importing from Africa and get refugees from Burma. Have not heard bad reports about refugees from Burma.

Obviously hot all cultures can or will integrate.

Burma isn't fully free as yet, but it is, a work in progress. I don't mind as long as they are not Muslim. I'm inclined to agree with you on the African immigrant. Some are having a hard time fitting in, although I have met some nice ones who are trying to help the misfits adapt to Australian Culture. I have met one who was disappointed with some of his fellow countrymen in that they wanted continue their individual Tribal hatreds in Australia. He says with some contempt, "Bush people."

I'm not inclined to agree with bringing in future trouble. Lot's of Buddhists would be good. The vetting process should take into account the applicants willingness & ability to adopt Australian Culture. That would preclude a lot of Muslims, I'm afraid.

Dear SteeleRedux,

I credited you with being a thinking person, probably a professional and possibly in a media organization. You certainly present as someone with access to a wealth of research and resources.

So what is it with you? What’s your motivation and purpose? Have you just returned from the Mount with the tablets of stone to educate us plebs? Did you just “happen” upon this site and decided we might benefit from the “ministry of (objective) Truth”? Or perhaps you are one of the latest products of ALP/Greens strategy that is taking their disintegrating mantra to the unconverted by infesting the domains of the “non-aligned” and manifesting as a “super troll”?

My response to you was double threaded. It contained the topic sensitive “blog response content”, it also offered you multiple “identifier” attributes designed to provide the opportunity for you to respond as the professional with an intellect with which I credited you.

There are many in the blogosphere that don’t read content, they just “feel” it, mostly because their entire lives are devoted to burning emotional energy in the defense of the indefensible.

Why did you offer a double post without addressing any issues? You were offered the chance to avoid a response based on socialized “narrative theory” but you chose to go the whole nine yards with rhetoric?

Clearly my initial assessment of you was wrong. You are just another member of the self referential organic networks that make up the progressive advocacy block. You treat philosophy, sociology, science, history and literature, as simply a different mode of story telling and therefore opened these topics up by rhetoric to “interpretation” or the creation of your objective truths.

Francisco Varela described the cognition of such as you, as "embodied action" or "enaction." It is not a representation of an independently existing real world, it is a continual bringing forth of a world which is defined by oneself and defines oneself at the same time.

I acknowledge your skill in avoiding the bear traps but you really do need to raise your game, or better still, change it.

Geesus Spin, ya got that wrong, didinya.

Steelie will never, I say again, never, answer a question directly. That is not the way Islamic militants or their sympathizers debate. The way they answer a question is to deflect the question with an accusation in another direction entirely. I thought you would have known that. That's exactly what our friend steelie does without fail, every time.

Steelie, don't watch that link. I wouldn't want you to get angry & hurt yourself. I'd feel bad if you did.