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In search of Cosmetic Asylum.

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Question: Is the words of this Dr true or fabricated? Did any of these refugees actually ask for the cosmetic surgery or was it a fabrication
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 8:11:53 AM
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That's probably a bit of overreach, Joe...

"Whatever, the doctor seemed to assume that the patients she was dealing with had been properly processed and, as far as she was concerned, they were bone fide refugees."

Her title, 'Medical Director of Asylum Seeker Health Services at Nauru, Manus and Christmas Islands' more reasonably suggests that as far as she was concerned they were asylum seekers.

I can understand why Dr Yoong left Nauru after five weeks having had one day off,

"We located our clinic, which was an old recreation centre. There was nothing in the clinic — it was just an empty space.

Over the week, partitions were erected and we identified what needed to go where. There was no workable flush toilet and we initially tried to hold our bladders instead of going to the ADF pit latrine. After a few days we got used to the pit latrine, even on a hot day.

The first group of asylum seekers arrived five days after us — Tamils from Sri Lanka. They were no problem and they came up to Medical often for a chat and to help us unpack supplies. By then, they had flush toilets although we did not."

As for the question of the breasts being thrown around by commenters, all we have is the ascription in the Australian article, "the source [who may or may not have been Dr Yoong] said. "A woman wanted bigger breasts and said she did not like the ones she had."

So instead of 'boob jobs' isn't 'boobs job' more likely correct when referring to 'a woman'?
Posted by WmTrevor, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 8:24:48 AM
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"That's probably a bit of overreach, Joe...

"Whatever, the doctor seemed to assume that the patients she was dealing with had been properly processed and, as far as she was concerned, they were bone fide refugees.""

Actually, WmTrevor, it's a lot of an overreach.

Loudmouth is off beam here.

The asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus haven't been assessed as genuine refugees.

That's why these centres are referred to as processing centres - as in "offshore processing".

That is, asylum seekers are being assessed to ascertain whether or not they are to be accorded refugee status.

My question did not pertain to whether this doctor does or does not consider them refugees.

I asked whether she was qualified to assess the antecedents of the asylum seekers of whom she was charged with their medical care.

I assume she was employed as a medical professional - and not as a person qualified to assess asylum seekers' claims.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 9:45:19 AM
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Nope, still not convinced that people will risk their children's lives at sea in order to get to Australia unless they are desperate situations.

Individual, how do you know there are only 'dozens' of fishing boats prepared to take asylum seekers to Australia from Indonesis? You don't.

How many fishing boat owners will happily line up to have Abbott buy their boat for inflated prices? Pick me!
Even if they weren't considering transporting asylum seekers they may well say they would.

What a stupid policy.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 9:46:06 AM
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Pericles - Quote "I'll guarantee you have absolutely no evidence to back up your "BILLIONS of taxpayers dollars" claim."

You have really outdone yourself with that comment because you know it is true.

Just check budget paper and ministerial briefings etc

The asylum budget of almost $2.9 billion next financial year 2013

The Red Cross has been paid $603 million for 26 months' work helping asylum seekers in the Australian community.

Almost $75 million has been given to the Salvation Army for welfare and support services in Nauru and Manus Island and $8 million has gone to Save the Children.

government revealed on a contracts website on June 27 2013 that managing Australia's detention centres will now cost almost $2.5 billion, almost $1 billion more than expected last year.

April 21, 2013 Serco holds $1.8 billion in contracts to run Australia's detention centres.
A long list of companies including charter airlines, hire firms and blue-chip transport companies entered into, or held, contracts with the department last year. Across all its operations, the department had contracts worth more than $8 billion last year.

These figure excludes a range of other costs related to arrivals of boat people, regional cooperation costs, plus costs incurred by other agencies and departments such as Customs or the Defence Force.

Poirot - You also show your ignorance "Is she qualified to assess people for refugee status on the grounds that she's a medical professional?"

She is in a position to talk to them the longer you talk to them the truth about there situation comes out.
The longer you have someone as a friend the more they will reveal about them self.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 10:03:34 AM
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Philips,
I admire your perseverance but no amount of reasoning is ever going to move Piorot. As I mentioned above, if the good doctor(or anyone else) had said "yes they are 100% genuine" Poirot and a few others would be citing her as an authority (and Lexi would be linking us to it, quick smart!).

Her pussyfooting around "whether [the doctor] was qualified to assess the antecedents of the asylum seekers" is prevarication --or in other words total and utter BS. What antecedents? No papers, no witnesses, just a well rehearsed generic story. Bob Carr saw through it and they didn't want to listen to him either.

Face it, Poirot will never change, she was born with her feet set in concrete
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 10:30:57 AM
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