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In search of Cosmetic Asylum.

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Suseonline, "Nope, still not convinced that people will risk their children's lives at sea in order to get to Australia unless they are desperate situations."

That is all you have to say? You have nothing to counter what the ex-Minister for Immigration has said and what the ex-Foreign Minister from the other side has been saying as well?

They agree despite coming from different sides, but you still choke on it, maintaining that both are wrong.

In China parents break the limbs of children to set them up as beggars to earn money. Fifty percent of Afghan girls are married by the age of ten (so too for indigenous girls thanks to the extreme multiculturalism ideology of Australian 'Progressives').

Of course they are people who can easily put the life of a child on the line for gain and some do it out of political idealism.

But you cannot see that you yourself put more childrens' lives at risk through your support for people smugglers. Or if you can you are prepared to turn a blind eye to it to suit your idealism or even to win a point (as 'Progressives' do when disregarding the rights of indigenous minors to support traditional cultural imperatives).
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:05:07 PM
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To those doubting the authenticity of the report, perhaps you would care to read the interview in the Medical observer which if anything takes a pro refugee stance:

http://www.medicalobserver.com.au/news/nauru-gp-from-botox-and-ivf-requests-to-voluntary-starvation?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=enews+02-10+new+format&utm_content=enews+02-10+new+format+CID_104799cbf037cbeecc9834368b475340&utm_source=Email+marketing+software&utm_term=Nauru+GP+from+Botox+and+IVF+requests+to+voluntary+starvation

"BREAST augmentation and IVF are not the medical procedures likely to be top of mind for doctors treating asylum seekers arriving on Australian shores in leaky boats.

However, these – and others including Botox, cosmetic dentistry and kidney transplant - are among the requests fielded by Dr Ling Yoong, a GP who has directed health services for asylum seekers at Christmas Island, Nauru and Manus Island.

Many asylum seekers have fled their homeland to escape persecution, Dr Yoong said.

“I believe, for the true refugees, we as Australians must provide protection for them as well as comfort them for their trauma,” she said.

But she knows after years of experience that non-genuine applicants are prepared to starve themselves, lie about their history and fake illness.

“We give [the asylum seekers] the health services they need, we do not give them the services they want,” Dr Yoong said.

Dealing with genuine mental illness is one thing, being forced to play mind games is something else entirely, and emotionally draining, she said.

After 26 years as a GP in Mount Druitt, Sydney, Dr Yoong took up a job in 2007 with International SOS in Beijing, followed by stints in Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. She was then asked to run services at Australia’s offshore detention centres."

I know you left whingers would love to claim that this is fake, but it is from a reputable person in a reputable magazine. The reality is that the good will of Australians is being abused by economic refugees and human traffickers.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:13:34 PM
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Dear SM,

Thank You for confirming the points people have
been trying to make in this discussion.
Yes, there are those who will and do try to abuse
the system (no one is denying that) however as you
have now confirmed with Dr Yoong's statement - there are
many refugees who are indeed escaping from persecution.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:39:57 PM
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SM,

I don't believe this story is a fake.

Nor do I believe that this doctor's experience or opinion is representative of the circumstances and behaviour of the majority of asylum seekers.

However, I do believe it's a beat-up.

That you lot here are employing it to tar and brush all asylum seekers is par for the course around here.

Perhaps you can shed light on this doctor's qualifications and expertise in assessing and passing judgement on the veracity of claims of asylum seekers.

Does her area of expertise and experience in assessing asylum claims extend beyond her medical qualifications?
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:40:59 PM
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Pericles - I am convinced now that you really do know I am right but just want to play silly little childish games, Find The Facts.

April 21, 2013 Serco holds $1.8 billion in contracts to run Australia's detention centres.
A long list of companies including charter airlines, hire firms and blue-chip transport companies entered into, or held, contracts with the department last year. Across all its operations, the department had contracts worth more than $8 billion last year.

Read what I wrote it says what a lot was for add to that the charities, the doctors, catering, food supplies, smokes, internet, computers, phones, accommodation for staff working on the Islands etc. ALL of this waste could have been spent on infrastructure in Australia for Australians

In future I am not going to waste my time answering your idiotic questions, when you have valid ones no problem.

Poirot - The point you believe it is a beat-up is only YOUR opinion and does not change the FACT that it is TRUE.
Please accept you are wrong in this instance.

Also it appears you were unable to read or comprehend my comment to you before. So here it is again.
You also show your ignorance "Is she qualified to assess people for refugee status on the grounds that she's a medical professional?"

She is in a position to talk to them the longer you talk to them the truth about there situation comes out.
The longer you have someone as a friend the more they will reveal about them self.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 1:59:07 PM
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Poirot and Foxy,

If you actually read the article, you would not need to ask these questions. The doctor in question is not involved in assessing asylum claims, nor should she be.

What is clear from this story and many other stories of "refugees" is that while many are genuine, also many are not, and the method of entry, the destruction of documents, standardized fabricated stories, etc indicates that few would meet the measure of need to granted asylum through legitimate channels.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 2:08:57 PM
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