[cont.]

Julia Gillard's former communications director John McTernan labelled them "Iranian architects".

The medical source said she believed she was witnessing the initial stages of a growing trade in "medical asylum", where people who were not otherwise persecuted, but who had little or no access to healthcare, were making trips to Australia in the belief they could get any treatment they wanted.

"You have to be logical and rational about this and as much as I supported the genuine refugees, I knew more and more were not," the source said.

She said she originally got into the field of asylum health because she wanted to treat people.

"I have a lot of empathy for refugees ... when I started, I told myself I was just going to be treating people, I said I was not going to get involved in the politics," she said.

"But I soon went from dealing with mostly human misery to human demands."

A source close to the former Labor government was not aware of the specific instances of medical requests but was "not surprised" by them.

The source cautioned against using the requests as a direct link to refugee status.

"Somebody can have a well-founded fear of persecution which would not make them an economic migrant, it would make them an asylum-seeker," the source said.

A spokesman for Immigration Minister Scott Morrison said these types of requests were "lavish" ... Those seeking to come illegally by boat won't receive such lavish treatments and they won't get the settlement in Australia they paid people-smugglers for."

An asylum-seeker advocate, who did not wish to be named, conceded there were small numbers of people arriving on boats who were "muddying the waters" for those in genuine fear of their life.

"Obviously somebody asking for a boob job is outrageous but from the deep, deep experience I have in this sector, I'd say it's also an aberration," the advocate said.

"These are not the normal stories of horrific nature we are used to hearing."

[TBC]

[contd.]

Details of the medical requests emerged as Mr Morrison said the government was negotiating a series of understandings with the Indonesian government over asylum-seekers, but wouldn't say whether they included the Coalition's signature policy of turning boats back to Indonesia.

A delegation of Australian officials was in Indonesia working through the issues, and a high-level delegation, including operation commander Mark Binskin, retired major general Jim Molan and AFP Commissioner Tony Negus would visit next week.

- See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/seeking-asylum-and-breast-job/story-fn9hm1gu-1226733279729#sthash.7PbadRlQ.dpuf

So this is the report:
<< [a doctor has revealed that] Asylum seekers at off-shore detention centres [have] asked doctors for breast enlargements, IVF treatments, Botox and cosmetic dentistry>> but such services were declined [at least under her watch]

And this is the reaction:

From Poirot, gibberish:
"SPQR, SM, runner (what's a Labour diehardt?)...Barnaby Joyce...Barnaby Joyce...Gina Rinehart... Gina Rinehart...hyuk,hyuk, hyuk"

From Lexi, this gem:
"Radio shock jocks like Alan Jones are the media
equivalent of cockroaches. They feed of shyte,
and can withstand a nuclear blast."

From Pericles, leading the cavalry on his favourite hobby horse:
"xenophobic rant… right Austrayan to chunter on about those evil wogs and chinks and mozzies, isn't it"..."it's all a beat"

And last -and least- Paul 1405:
It's "all lies"

@Poirot,
The doctor is a lot better positioned to make an assessment than you and practically all of your sources, and you assure us every week the asylum scammers are all sweet little lambs. I’ll bet if she said they were all 100% genuine you’d be quoting her as an authority.

@Pericles
Looking for backing for Philips costings, start with the expenses involved in building and furnishing detention centres --and rebuilding and resupplying them each time they get trashed/burnt down.

SPQR,

"@Poirot,
The doctor is a lot better positioned to make an assessment than you and practically all of your sources, and you assure us every week the asylum scammers are all sweet little lambs. I’ll bet if she said they were all 100% genuine you’d be quoting her as an authority."

The doctor is perfectly qualified to assess her patients' health.

I'm asking if she is qualified to assess their claims of refugee status.

What expertise or qualifications does she have to assess the antecedents of asylum seekers?

Hi Poirot,

"The doctor is perfectly qualified to assess her patients' health.

"I'm asking if she is qualified to assess their claims of refugee status.

"What expertise or qualifications does she have to assess the antecedents of asylum seekers?"

Not really the point, my friend, [well, that's better than 'sweetie', isn't it ?] - she takes it as understood that they have been assessed as asylum seekers, and probably - at first - she would assume that they are indeed genuine refugees too.

Her point was that they didn't seem to have the sorts of preoccupations that a refugee, terrified of losing their liberty or their lives, or those of their loved ones, might be expected to have. Bigger boobs, she suggests, aren't what one would expect to be high on the list for genuine refugees.

Not that there's anything wrong with bigger boobs, of course.

But cop it and move on, my friend.

Cheers :)

Joe
www.firstsources.info

Loudmouth,

I asked if this medical professional had any qualifications or expertise to assess the antecedents of asylum seekers.

I also asked if she was qualified to assess their claims of refugee status.

I didn't make an inquiry into this: "... she takes it as understood that they have been assessed as asylum seekers..."

Presenting as a seeker of asylum does not make one a refugee (as you know).

This medical professional is treating those who are seeking asylum.

Is she qualified to assess whether or not they are bonafide refugees - or is she qualified only to deliver medical care?

"Her point was that they didn't seem to have the sorts of preoccupations that a refugee, terrified of losing their liberty or their lives, or those of their loved ones, might be expected to have. Bigger boobs, she suggests, aren't what one would expect to be high on the list for genuine refugees."

She stated the request for "Bigger Boobs", etc was an extreme example.

Don't tell me to "cop it and move on" - I'll stick around questioning as long as it suits me.....friend.