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We got it wrong on warming, says IPCC

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Hasbeen, here for a bum fight (whatever one is)?

We're now 95% sure now about AGW. What's your solution? (Just to preempt, don't say wait for 100%, as you have a reputation to protect)
Posted by Luciferase, Sunday, 29 September 2013 5:13:16 PM
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Who is this "we" Luci.

Are you part of this bunch who's models can't actually produce the cooling the planet is going through, but claim 95% surety that people are causing it. It has been cooling for 5 years, but they are sure the warming is worse than they thought. God help us.

Perhaps you are a good swimmer, & have found that heat for them, in the ocean. That should earn you a good payout. They have been paid billions, but can't find it, after years of trying.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 29 September 2013 10:27:10 PM
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Yep, the planet is definitely cooling. The temp at the moment where I am is only 24. Yesterday afternoon it was 32.
2010 is the hottest year on record. 9 out the 10 hottest years on record have occurred this century.
This decade is hotter than last decade, and that was hotter than the decade before.
Anyone less than 36 years old has NEVER experienced a cooler year than the long term average.
Allowing for the well documented cooling affect of La Nina events -and comparing apples with apples-, 2012 was a hotter La Nina year than 2011; 2010 was a hotter El Nino year than 1998.
Sea surface temperature increased over the 20th century and continues to rise. From 1901 through 2012, temperatures rose at an average rate of 0.13°F per decade.
Posted by Grim, Monday, 30 September 2013 6:13:36 AM
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Hasbeen: "God help us."

God helps those who help themselves.

You seem incapable of understanding the science or accepting it if you do. it would be better having you on board to discuss solutions but I can only assume you are the last remaining member of your lineage and don't give a toss about the future of everyone else's descendants.

Perhaps you are a smoker that has escaped its worst consequences and you feel bullet proof in the face of the 95% confidence held in smoking causing cancer, and our confidence in AGW and where it leads.

Nobody wants you to eat crow, Hasbeen, simply come on up as the angels in heaven rejoice at every soul that saves itself. Ask OUG.
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 30 September 2013 9:53:08 AM
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Perhaps a help in your conversion, Hasbeen:

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/9/30/science-environment/lomborg-misleads-ipcc?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=438646&utm_campaign=cs_daily&modapt=

Anti-AGW high-priest Bjorn Lomborg argues against measures to limit warming while quoting IPCC's projections based on those measures being undertaken.

"The lower bound of the temperature rises estimated by the IPCC, which Lomborg happily cites, are based upon scenarios where governments implement policies, which Lomborg argues against, to substantially constrain emissions."
Posted by Luciferase, Monday, 30 September 2013 1:57:15 PM
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The inconvenient truth is that even if Australia put in place a carbon tax of $1000/t and reduced emissions by 100% by 2020, it would make no measurable difference as most manufacturing emissions will have moved off shore and any remaining savings would be matched by about 3 weeks of growth in India, China and other developing countries.

Without a global consensus and action, unilateral action by Aus is pointless and only feel good, self flagellation by greenie groups.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 30 September 2013 2:13:54 PM
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