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Change in politics good and bad

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We change leaders today.
But can we change the hostility seen in this campaign?
Ill health drove me away from the polling both but ability to think tells me Labors run is over.
And too, as said here for years in part at its own actions.
Now we stop being the target, some times a position well earned, and the other side gets that.
I saw a media to shame, not just the demented dwarf from America.
But a host of talking heads *giving their opinions* in the form of a question.
But are we going to let our mate ship die?
Events like this campaign go close to breeding separation.
Starting a fire that blinds us to the damage we have seen.
For me the ALP must truly confront its self.
Must truly take head on the damage factions did.
*The treat*that any one crossing the floor to oppose Obeid and his filth, would be expelled from the party.
That rule entrenches crime and fraud.
NSW FILTH was born long before them, Woolongong shouted a warning, Labor, maybe others too was infested with self serving fleas.
Some great policy,s died today, in part at the hands of filth and traitors from within our ranks.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 7 September 2013 1:50:26 PM
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The really nice thing about the children on OLO is that they have nothing to offer other than an extension of the KRudd mantra that we have as a Nation, just rejected.

Since there is nothing else on offer Iíve decided to post this response against the last three threads that have emerged today. The nice thing about ideological predictability and groupthink is that the same response always applies.

They fail to recognize that the majority of Australians have just demonstrated via the ballot box, that they donít share their adopted views. Suddenly democracy is no longer valid if it doesnít fit.

Tough titties children, night night and sleep tight.
Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 8 September 2013 2:11:48 PM
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Sorry you are not well Belly. Hope the new seasons blooms give you a lift.

Mate we will know if labor can come back, when we see what they do with Rudd. If you don't get rid of him completely you have no chance.

I'm afraid for you that despite your predictions, Abbott is going to prove a good, & inclusive PM. Probably a bit softer than I think we need, but good never the less. This could make it even harder to reform your party.

You will have to find a leader who can get away from hate, & start to think about what is good for the country.

I know you can, but you know people like you have been pushed aside, & been made helpless.

I don't like your chances, it has been going on since Richardson, & will be hard to fix, but I wish you luck.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 8 September 2013 2:29:53 PM
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Hasbeen, (to Belly), "You will have to find a leader who can get away from hate, & start to think about what is good for the country"

That would rule out Tanya Plibersek and Bill Shorten.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 8 September 2013 2:44:42 PM
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Spin Doc you by that smirk mark your self as unworthy.
I would ask the ALP voters here, me proudly one, not to look first for others wrongs.
We did! just as in 1975! bring parts of the roof down on our heads.
If we gift wrap the ALP in only finding fault in others we die.
Labor must reform, clearly its policy,s failed to sell.
Yet are in my view ones to be proud of.
We must confront 2010, not Lionize Gillard, she more than any one owns our defeat.
Both party,s must confront an electorate prepared to vote for minor party,s, to let teams with less than 20% over throw the wishes of the eighty percent.
Labor will rebuild, on the very best foundations, true reform.
Liberals will have the usual honey moon then by its actions recruit voters for Labor.
First however the senate?
Was it Australia,s intention yesterday to let Abbott beg that mob of wasters to let his policy,s pass? to see some stopped?
Labor and the Liberals acting on behalf of the 80% should bargain to pass mandated bills.
Abbott has his mandate.
I want as first reform an end, forever, to Labors combining with the greens.
Too for a new look at why we let a senate stall true rule of the people.
We risk a shattering of our style of Democracy if we do not confront the joke the senate is.
Last time I say this it was shocking to find OLO is more reprsenative than I thought.
The naked hate stupidity and spite shown towards Labor/me came from the lower end of the IQ range.
But consider if we did the same? death in our streets!
Abbott has sold us a pup and Labors finger prints can be found there too.
New Leader? Bill Shorten.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 8 September 2013 2:45:32 PM
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Dear Belly,

The election was only yesterday.
It remains to be seen as to the difference
that the new government will make. It's one
thing to be in Opposition, quite another to
have to actually solve problems and run the
country.

The Economist tell us that Mr Abbott's big test
will be to adapt his combative style to the
serious business of government.

Mr Abbott has already ditched an earlier boast that
he would return the budget to surplus in his first
term. And abolishing the carbon tax and other pledges
may well face challenges in the Senate.
Mr Abbott told the Australian Financial Review that
there will be a "qualitative difference in the way
things happen in Canberra."
What the difference will be remains to be seen.

As for Labor?

I am concerned that Mr Rudd will remain as a prominent
figure in the Labor Party taking up space in
Parliament - and the cameras focusing on him instead of
any new leader. I was hoping that if he lost
the election he'd resign not only as Leader of the Labor
Party but from politics altogether - giving the Labor
Party a chance to really make a fresh start.
Instead he'll be there
biding his time, and I wonder if he won't be tempted
to start campaigning again for himself, in six months time?

Labor needs to have a few words with this man.
And advise him on what's really good for the Party.
He must surely take some responsibility on board for the
failure that the Party has received.

Lets look at the facts -

The Party
did steer the economy through the GFC, putting
Australia in its 22nd year of uninterrupted growth.
The Party introduced several worthy reforms, a fibre-optic
broadband network, an insurance scheme for disabled people,
school reforms and a price on carbon emissions.

In the end though, all of this was overshadowed by the
bitter rivalries between Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard.
And the man does not acknowledge any responsibility for this
at all, and he's still sticking around.

That's a concern!
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 8 September 2013 3:49:46 PM
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