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...brevity is the soul of wit

Hamlet Act 2, scene 2
Posted by david f, Thursday, 12 September 2013 12:06:41 PM
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I would like to express my deep and sincere appreciation to Graham for supplying email alerts which name the poster.
This is the first time I have returned to this thread in some time, and as always, I'm not disappointed.
Thank you, David f.
Posted by Grim, Thursday, 12 September 2013 12:13:11 PM
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i agree..with grim
anyhow as divined from..davids last clue

act two..scene 2

into the google search/ to reveal

<<#..No Fear Shakespeare:
Romeo and Juliet:..Act 2,..act too

Seen to 2
nfs.sparknotes.com/romeojuliet/page_78.html

Don't be her maid,
because she is jealous.
Virginity makes her look sick and...*green.>>

ode to mother/nurtures..nature 2
then..its kARMA*

*Only fools hold/on to,..their virginity.>>..

[INNOCENCE LOST
[IN A SENSE LOST]..<<..Let it go.

Oh,..there's my lady!
Oh, it is
my ...
#
#
Romeo and Juliet Study Guide : Summary and Analysis of Act 2 ...
www.gradesaver.com/romeo-and-juliet/study-guide/section2/

The theme..of love is..central to Act
2 of Romeo..[father/life]..and [two]..of Juliet..[mother/nurture].

to Romeo..and Juliet fall in/love..instantly,
and marry..one day later,..sealing their future.>>

one day..or one period..of coutship
counting off the writer/cause..day dreaming ..day by day

The balcony scene ...
ROMEO AND JULIET.. Act 2, SEEN 2
www.shakespeare-navigators.com/romeo/T22.html

[Enter ROMEO.]
ROMEO..*1 He jests..at scars
that never felt a wound.>>

DONT forget 2..ENTION GOOD FRIDAY SPEARING..2

[JULIET..appears above at a window.] 2
But, soft!..what light through yonder window
breaks?
#>>

wot/light indeed..
what life/love/light..through
yondrer yonnkipa window breaks..the dead seed to live?

<<..SCENE II...Capulet's orchard.>>
built..over/upon..our fathers fields

shakespeare.mit.edu/romeo_juliet/romeo_juliet.2.2.html

OBScene 2 ... SCENE II.
Capulet's orchard.
Enter ROMEO...

ROMEO.
He jests..at scars
that never..felt the wounding
yet learned..to hear the living/voice..even in dead words .
#

Romeo and Juliet:..List of Scenes..
A lane..by the wall/of Capulet's orchard.

Scene 3: Friar Laurence's cell.
Act 2, Scene 4: A street.
#
Romeo and Juliet Act 2, Scene 2 Summary

www.shmoop.com/romeo-and-juliet/act-2-scene-2-summary.html -

Romeo and Juliet..analyzed
by PhD students from Stanford, Harvard, Berkeley.
#..with detailed
explanatory notes.

Nurse)
Romeo advances.ROM.He jest
at scars...that never felt a wound...the dagger..Enter Juliet above at...prig/pig

#
"What light?
...DE-light
&#9658; 2:42

launched Off
By Heart Shakespeare - a ...Romeo
stands in the shadows..beneath Juliet's bedding room/window.

Juliet
*appears on the balcony
and thinking she's alone, reveals...?..
in a soliloquy he...

whatever that be
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 12 September 2013 1:32:33 PM
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In Hamlet’s..soliloquy..in Act 2,Scene 2,

Shakespeare..successfully creates
a dual character..for Hamlet.

He does this by pointing out through diction both Hamlet’s passion and fear for revenge and Hamlet’s love and doubt toward his father’s ghost.

Hamlet speaks..his soliloquy
after watching..the player’s performance.
Hamlet is amazed at..the player’s ability..to develop emotions for “Hecuba”. ?

Hamlet wonders..how he can do it
without experiencing..{in full}..the whole life story.
[as lived..not told]

He then imagines
what..the player would do
if the player..“had the motive
and [the cue]..for passion that I [he] has”...(541-542)

Hamlet..believes
that the player..[loki]..would bring
the “stage with/in/..[to] tears”,,(542),..
thus..horrify..“the general ear”..(543)..or the ears
of the audience..with speech,..threaten the “guilty”..(544)/ones,

“confound.the not/ignorant”..(545)..ones
and stun..every..“eyes and ears”...planks (546)

Ham-let..[lol]....piglrt...<<..assumes these actions
from the player..[via the writers written cause..is because..]
because..these actually..*are the actions..that mortal/material/manly..Hamlet..would employ..in order to fully..express his horror induced/produced..feelings.

Hamlet/here..only imagines
since..he restrains himself..from disclosing anything..yet.

Hamlet..then feels
that he is..a “dull..contrite..and muddy-mettled rascal”(547)
who..pooor him..couldn’t do anything,..*for his father to retard that impluse to re-venge.

The word..“muddy-mettled”..means dull/spirited,>>

see the/officer
sins..show up as muddy/stains on..our soul/bopdy

<<.. it points out
that Hamlet..[sins/off ommision]..reveal..
he..only/is..frustrated..at himself.. Hamlet thirsts for revenge to bravely kill his father’s murder, King Claudius.

However all he can do is to “mope/ like John-a-dreams”. (548)

prevented see life inthe world unseen

He puts himself..at the peak of frustration,
since he has not..*seen anything accomplished..yet.

He starts to doubt..his ability for/revenge.>>

consiously..or not?imporytantdifference
see 30years ammooung the dead

<<..He becomes fearful..of dangers and death...
And he starts calling..himself..“a rogue” (531),>>..

hearing his inner/guides voices
useless..mind talk/..entertaining demons unaware

JUDGE FOR THYSEF
..<<..“a peasant slave”(530),
and “an ass”..(562),..murder/vengance/lust/dueality/karma

<<..while..he also..questions/himself
..*if he’s a..“coward”(551).

Hamlet..then reproaches King/Claudius
by calling him..a “bloody,..bawdy villain!”(560)>>

was he..just being nice
or..thats as bad as he could get?

?
<<..He..[physicly?]..accounts King Claudius’ sins
as..“remorselessly”..(561).,.murdered his father..without/letting him to repent;..<<

or true spiritual sin

<<..“treacherously”(561)
stole his..father’s crown;
“lecherously” seducd....his father’s queen..[or loki/one cant ever....be sure..
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 12 September 2013 2:08:29 PM
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<<and..“kindlessly”..(561)....>>

interesting word use
and unkindly?

[as opposed by surah 55?]

<<..destroyed the futures,,of Hamlet..and Denmark.>>

mark..the den

<<..Hamlet escalates/his hatred..toward
what he now sees..only as this..malicious King.

He eagerly..looks forward,
to the day..of his*,,revenge.

Hamlet..also reminds/himself
of his identit.. as the “son of a dear>>

oh deer..more of me

,,>>[father]murthered”(563)
[666]..[?]

so..,that he..of the patriarchal
omnipotentate of/impotence/satans minions

..<<..has to seek..“my..[his][thyne]..
revenge..by heaven and hell”...(563-564)

Hamlet becomes aware..that he needs
to get his..“brains”(569)..[mindset..right]

,,.<<..“About”..(569)or to work.
He switche.. his eager heart..
for revenge..to the calm scheming.
He..is planning to/have..the “players play something/like the murder of my..[his] father..

before my [his] uncle”
that he can “observe his [his uncle’s] looks” to judge his guilt. Hamlet concludes to himself that “[he] know my [his course]” (578) of what to do if his uncle “do blench” (576) or flinch.

However, Hamlet is indeed losing his faith. He doubts the validity of the ghost being his father.

He depends on King Claudius’ reaction to the play to verify the words from the ghost. And he becomes a “coward” (551) who fears death, since he knows his death might come if overflow the king. Hamlet even blasphemes his father ghost by saying that it might be “a [dev’l]” who “hath power T’ assume a pleasing shape” (579-580), or lure him to sin, which would “abuse me [him] and damn me [him]”. (583) Hamlet becomes unsure of the story told by the ghost. His faith starts to dim. Nevertheless, he continues to execute his plan to detect King Claudius’ guilt as he says “I’ll catch the conscience of the king” (585).

In conclusion, Shakespeare obviously shows the hardest situation and greatest agonies for Hamlet, but intentionally hides the dual character of Hamlet in the text. Shakespeare brilliantly creates this dual character that Hamlet is eager but fearful to revenge, and respectful to the ghost to but suspects its intention.

Also, this dual character he created is fascinating but is ironic because through Hamlet he delivers the idea that having wants or relations in two extreme directions is what usually people in the society do.
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 12 September 2013 2:09:48 PM
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John..[a name i used 2 call myself]

jonah..O'Dreams..
although..often called..a traditional Irish song,..[written by Bill Caddick,..[using a tune by Tchaikovsky.]

The titular/central character
is equivalent..to the Sandman,[death]..

a fictional character
who sends people..to sleep...>>

sent/called
too ease their sufferings

<<..The song..portrays all people
as being.."equal in sleep":[the after life*]

All things are equal..when the day [1]..is done
The Princ.. and the ploughman,..the slave and freeman
All find their comfort..in old John O'Dreams..c/life/unseen

In this context,
sleep may also be..considered..a metaphor for death,
both as an eventual..*equalizer of all things,..and for the allusion to a "crossing over,"..>>

shuttling off
our mortal-coils

<<as in a river,..or..crossing-over..the great divide
a prevalent theme..in Western spiritual/beliefs.
yet subverted/perverted..under/creed/greed

hopes/dream;s..bias
fear/projections

and more
as we return to the dream-time

john'o,dreams
[ignore/the chords..note the words]
[tune by Tchaikovsky.

Yield/up..the night-time..thyme
to good old John O'Dreams

G C G
Across
the hill
the sun has gone astray

G C G
Tomorrows cares are many dreams away

G D D7 C
The fires are flying,
your candles dying (Hold)

G C G
Yield up the darkness..to old John O'Dreams

G C G

Yield up the darkness..to the sun

G C G
Both man and Master..in the night are one

G C G
All things are equal..when the day is done

G D D7 C
The Prince
and the ploughman,
the slave and Freeman (Hold)

G C G
All find their comfort find
in the mind..of old John O'Dreams

G C G
All find their comfort in old John O'Dreams

G C G
When sleep..becomes eternal
it comes..the dreams..via the dreams..
we loved/lived..some full of frightsom fears..
yet in the goodly endings..soon be-come..running clear

G C G
The hawks of morning..grief/finality..
cannot reach you here
G D D7 C
Sleep is your river,
flow on forever (Hold)
G C G
And for your boatman..shall/will/to chose
but not..before thee..choose old John O'Dreams

to be..or not 2b?
over 2 thee
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 12 September 2013 3:14:43 PM
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