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this might at first raise anger
but then..its time we knew..that terror..
is just error..[with a capiTal..T.]

In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert, discuss 'financial terror,' cluster bombs and protestors without portfolios.

They also discuss Standard & Poor's 'blasting' the $5 billion fraud lawsuit against them as retaliation for the rating agency's 2011 decision to strip the United States of its AAA credit rating.

.

noting capital/terror..
go hand in hand../with gun in hand

crime pays..
hence bigger crime pay off..is bigger
how big..watch..learn..but dont get angry..get even

learn more
teaching dissipate the anger

remember..its an info war
money=knowing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr6T-4Voe0g

http://www.repubblica.it/cultura/2013/09/11/news/the_pope_s_letter-66336961/

our weapon..of choice..is words
freewill..free voice
here

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5995&page=0

In the second half, Max talks to comedian, Lee Camp,
about banks and corporate greed money.

learn more

False Flag Legislation
to Turn Free Speech into a Privilege

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH282qQ4iAo

teaching dissipate the anger

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Posted by one under god, Sunday, 15 September 2013 9:11:07 AM
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anyhow..my next..project*..

from..Nag Hammad/texts
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/res.html

The Treatise..on the Resurrection

Translated by Malcolm L./Peel

..there..are Some,..my son/Rheginos,
who want to learn..many things...
They have..this goal..when..they are occupied..with questions..whose answer is lacking.

If they..succeed..with these,
they..usually think..very highly..of themselves...But I..do not think that..they..*have stood..within the Word..of Truth..made flesh.

They seek..rather their own rest,
than/that..which we have received..through our Savior,..our Lord Christ.

We received it..when we came..to know the truth..and rested ourselves upon it...>>[gave..full faith..to..it]

But..since you ask us..pleasantly
what is proper..concerning the resurrection.. I am writing you..that it is necessary..To be sure, m..any are lacking faith..in it,..but there are a few..who find it.

So then,..let us discuss the matter.

How did the Lord..proclaim things..while he existed..in flesh and after..he had revealed..himself..as A..Son of God?..He lived in this place..where you remain,..speaking about..the Law of Nature..but I call it..'Death'.

Now.the Son of God,..Rheginos,..was Son of Man.

He embraced them..both,..possessing the humanity..and the divinity, so that..on the one hand..he might..*vanquish death..and that on the other...the restoration..to that..the Pleroma might occur;..because he>>..like all of us..<<..was originally from above,

a seed of Truth,
before this material/flesh..structure..had come into being...In this..many dominions..and divinities..came into existence...too.

I know..that I am presenting..the solution in..difficult terms,
but there is...nothing difficult..in the Word of Truth..But since the Solution..appeared..so as not to leave..anything hidden,..but to reveal..all things openly concerning existence

the destruction..of masterial evil..on the one hand,
the revelation..of the elect..of eternal spirit..on the other.
This survival..beyond deaths veil..is the emanation..of Truth and Spirit,..

*Grace is of the Truth.

The Savior..swallowed up death
(of this)..you are not reckoned..as being ignorant
for he put aside..the world which is perishing/perishable..

He transformed..into..an imperishable Aeon..
and..raised..himself up..[as we all shall]..,

having swallowed..the visible..allowed by the invisible,..
and thus..he gave us..the way of our immortality../.via our own mortality..

Then,.indeed,..as the Apostle said,
"We..suffered..with him,..and we*..arose with him,..and..*we went to heaven..with him"...Now..we..are manifest..in this/world..wearing him,

we are*[collectively]..that one`s..beams,
and we*..ALL..are embraced..by him..until our setting,
that is to say,..our death..in this..life...thus as we..are his..he is ours/and thine

We..are to/be..drawn to heaven..by him,
like beams..emitted..by the sun,..not being restrained..by anything.>>..not lawfully..our due...

our/share..of that..*we didst sow...not that..left unsown.

continue
Posted by one under god, Monday, 16 September 2013 11:37:09 AM
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This is..the spiritual/resurrection..
which swallows up..the psychic..in the same way..as the fleshly.

But..if there is one..who does not believe,
he..does not have the..(capacity to be)..persuaded.
For it is..the domain of faith,..my son,..and not that which belongs to persuasion:

*the dead shall arise!
here is one..who believes..among
the philosophers..who are in this world...

At least..he will arise...
And..let not the philosopher..who is in this world..have cause to believe..that he is one who returns..himself of himself..and..(that)..because of our faith!

For we..have known..of..the Son of Man,

and we..have believed..that he rose..from among the dead.
This is he..of whom we say,.."He became..*the destruction of death, as he is a great one..in whom they believe."

Great are those..who believe.
not by thing they saw..but by trust/faith..in other
saved..not by faith alone..but according as the wants..we served>>....that chose our works/..passion confirms..that we chose here and now..we get..in the eternity to come..[for everyone]

<<..The thought of those..who are saved shall not perish...The mind of those who have known..shall not perish. Therefore,..we are elected to salvation and redemption..since we are predestined from the beginning not to fall into..the foolishness of those who are without knowledge,

*but we shall enter into the wisdom..of those who have known the Truth...Indeed, the Truth which is kept..cannot be abandoned,/nor has it been.

"Strong is the system..of the Pleroma;
small is that..which broke loose..(and) became..(the) world...then made..into word

even weaker..the word spoken
then the word..not heard

But..the All..is what is encompassed..in all word.

It has not..come into being;..it was existing."
So,..never doubt..concerning the..resurrection,..my son Rheginos!..

For are you..were not..existing in flesh..
you received..flesh..when you entered..this world*..

..Why..then..will you not receive..flesh..again
when you ascend..into the Aeon?

That..which is better..than the flesh
is that..which is for (the)..cause of life.
That which..came into being..on your account,.is it not yours!

Does not that..which..is yours..*exist with you?

Yet,..while you are..in this world,..what is it..that you lack?
This..is what..you have been making..every effort..to learn.

Nothing,then,..redeems us..from this world...But..the All*..which we are,..are saved.. We have received..salvation..from end..to end.

Let us think..in this way!
Let us..comprehend..everything..in this way!

not*ended..but im..over it
Posted by one under god, Monday, 16 September 2013 11:50:23 AM
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The Interpretation of Knowledge
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/intpr.html
Translated by John D. Turner
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The Exegesis on the Soul
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/exe.html
Translated by William C. Robinson Jr.

Wise men of old gave the spirit a feminine name.
Indeed she is female in her nature as well...She even has her womb.

As long as she was alone with the father, she was virgin and in form androgynous.

But when she [our life spirit]..fell down into a body and came to this life, then she fell into the hands of many robbers. And the wanton creatures passed her from one to another and [.seduced ..] her.[into want/need/sins of the flesh]..

Some made use of her by force, [to do things most vile../..that stain our soul-form..according to our want]..while others did so by seducing her..with a gift. In short, they defiled her, and she [gave up...] her virginity.[innocence]

And in her [ soul]..body
she [we]..prostituted herself [ourselves]
and gave herself [ourselves]..to one and all,..
considering each one..[life experience]..she was about to embrace..to be her husband.

When she had given herself to wanton, unfaithful adulterers, so that they might make use of her, then she sighed deeply and repented. But even when she turns her face from those adulterers, she runs to others and they compel her to live with them and render service to them upon their bed, as if they were her masters.

Out of shame she no longer dares to leave them, whereas they deceive her for a long time, pretending to be faithful, true husbands, as if they greatly respected her. And after all this they abandon her and go.

continues at end

The Expository Treatise on the Soul

... they came to believe
by means of signs..and wonders and fabrications.

The likeness..that came to be..through them followed him,
but through reproaches..and humiliations..before they received..the apprehension..of a vision they fled

The Testimony of Truth

Translated by Søren Giversen and Birger A. Pearson

I will speak to those..
who know to hear not..with the ears..of the body
but with the ears..of the mind...*..

keep this in mind*
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 4:42:22 PM
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For many..have sought after the truth..
and have not been able to find it;..

because there..has taken hold of them..
the old leaven..of the Pharisees..and the scribes..of the Law.

And the leaven..is the errant/desire
of the angels..and the demons..and the stars.[light-bearers]

As for the Pharisees..and the scribes,
it is they..who belong to the archons..who have authority..over them.

{..Archon is a Greek word..that means."ruler"
or "lord," frequently used as the title of..a specific public office. It is..the masculine..present participle.of the verb stem}.

<<<<For no one..who is.under the Law
will be able to look up..to the truth,..for they will not be able..to serve two masters.

For the defilement..of the Law is manifest;
but..un-defilement..belongs to the light...

The Law commands..(one)..to take a husband
(or)..to take a wife,..and to beget,..to multiply..like the sand of the sea.

But passion,..which is a delight to them,..
constrains..the souls of those..who are begotten..in this place,..those who defile..and those who are defiled,..in order that the Law might be fulfilled..through them.

And they show..that they/are assisting..the world;..
and they turn away..from the light,..who are unable to pass by..the archon of darkness..until they pay the last penny.

But..the Son of Man..came forth*..from Imperishability,
being alien..to defilement...He came to the world..by the Jordan river,..and immediately*..the Jordan turned back.

And John bore witness..to the descent of Jesus...
For it is he..who saw the power..which came down upon the Jordan river;..for he knew..that the dominion of carnal procreation.had come to an end...

The Jordan river..*is the power of the body,
that is, the senses..of pleasures...The water of the Jordan is the desire for sexual intercourse. John is the archon of the womb.

And this..is what the Son of Man..reveals to us:..
It is fitting for you (pl.)..to receive the word of truth..
if one will..receive it perfectly.{with love..grace/mercy..truth/faith}..

But as for one..who is in ignorance,
it is difficult for him....to diminish his works..of darkness which he has done.

Those who have known Imperishability,
however, have been able..to struggle against passions [...].

I have said..to you,.."Do not build..nor gather..for yourselves
in the place where..the brigands break open,..but bring forth fruit to the Father."
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 4:53:53 PM
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The foolish.-thinking..in their heart
that..if they confess,.."We are Christians,"..in word only..(but)..not..*with power,..
[love/grace/gnosis/knowing/resection]..while giving themselves..over to ignorance,..

to..a human/darkness..death
not knowing..where they are going..
nor..who Christ is,..thinking that..*they will live,..when they are..(really)..in error/..deadly/decievers

they..who/hasten towards..the principalities..and authorities.
They*..fall..into their clutches..because of the ignorance...that is in them.

For..(if)..only words which..bear testimony..
were effecting salvation.. the whole world..would endure this thing..and would be saved.

they do/not know..that they will.destroy t..only..them-selves.
If the Father..were to desire..a human sacrifice,..he would become vainglorious.

For..the Son of Man clothed/himself..with their first-fruits;
he went down..to Hades..and performed many mighty works.

He raised..the dead therein;..
and..the world-rulers..of darkness
became envious of him,..for they did not find sin..in him...

But he.also destroyed their works..from among men..
so that the lame,..[lazy]..the blind,..[in darknes]..the paralytic, the dumb,..(and) the demon-possessed..were granted healing.
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

And..he walked upon..the waters of the sea.
[see]
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Wanderer_a4.pdf

For this reason..he destroyed..his flesh from

[...]..which he..[...].
And he became..[...]..
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf

salvation [...] his death ...
... (4 lines unrecoverable)
... everyone..[...]..how many they are!
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Life_in_the_World_Unseen.pdf

They are blind guides,..like the disciples.
They boarded the ship;..at about thirty stadies,..they saw Jesus walking on the sea. These are empty martyrs,..since they bear witness only to themselves.*

And yet they are sick,..and
they are not..able to raise themselves.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html

But..when they are "perfected"..with a (martyr's) death,
this is the thought..that they have..within them:

"If we deliver ourselves..over to death
for the sake of the Name..we will be saved."

These matters..are not settled in this way.

But through the agency..of the wandering stars
they say they have "completed" their futile "course",..and [...] say, [...].

But these [...]
they have delivered themselves ...
... (7 lines unrecoverable)

...but they resemble..[...]them.

They do not have..the word
which gives life...[works][]unto..other

And some say,.."On the last day>>

but they are wrong

<<..we will certainly arise..in the resurrection."
But..they do not know..what they are saying,..

for..the last day[of mortal life..
is when those..belonging to Christ..[.shall be..all..born again

[..]..the earth,..which is..[.satans realm..]
shall hold your..soul..but your life/spirit..belong-eth..to..him

him..most high
good/god

But..it is..in this way..
that..they drew error..to themselves....
(3 lines unrecoverable)..and GOOD/works..that..wash us clean
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 5:05:53 PM
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