sonofgloin, You can't pick em. Imagine if old Billy Big Ears had actually moved in as my next door neighbor and considering he was disloyal, devious, dishonest, untrustworthy, petty, cowardly —a contemptible creature." these being his good points, I could have lent him my lawn mower, I would have never have got it back!
You have given me a great idea; a test for politicians before I cast my vote I am now going to apply the question. Which politician could I trust to lend my lawn mower to, and reasonably expect to get it back (in working order)? This of course assumes today's crop of polys have some semblance of how to use a lawn mower. Am I asking too much?
Welcome back Belly. In your absence I have been acting as the champion of the Labor Party and defender of the faith. I think in the short time I have been at the helm around here Labor's stocks have dropped 10 point on the forum.
p/s I do think I almost got SM to post a nice comment about Kev, it may still come, after the election, you never know.

Snakes in suits have done some dreadful damage to so many people's careers.

The one good thing to bear in mind is that, in sixteen days' time, Rudd may not be in Parliament.

Okay, two things: by Christmas, Shorten will be leader of the Opposition.

Joe
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Okay, two things: by Christmas, Shorten will be leader of the Opposition.
Loudmouth,
Even I, one of the most vehement ALP dislikers have more faith in them, they couldn't possibly want to jump from the fry pan into the fire, or could they ?

Probably, but Shorten almost as phoney as Rudd. My opinion, he would not be good enough for Labor in long term.

For myself, longer term, Chris Bowen would be a better option once situation settles down. For myself, Bowen sounds less phoney and appears a lot smarter than Shorten.

No, I would like to see Penny Wong at the helm. She is intelligent , speaks well, and has an even temper.

I can just imagine the ranting and raving on this site though if she did take over!
But the shock and horror would kill most posters...a woman AND gay as well.

I would love to see that day.

Individual you couldn't have been more wrong, could you? You say "they couldn't possibly want to jump from the fry pan into the fire, or could they?"

Then just 2 posts after you along comes Suse to prove they could.

What is it with Labor & their ability to pick such dreadful people as leaders? I can only assume it must be that they don't want anyone smarter, or more principled than themselves.

Suse you're right, Wong is perfect for you, disgusting, but perfect for you.